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Re: Dioramas & Models.

Postby Seguin on Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:11 am

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Sand sculpture Alamo I acquired back in the 1990's. (At Cost Plus?)


Nice! It must be very compressed sand not to fall apart, or maybe they gave it a lacquer coating.
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Re: Dioramas & Models.

Postby jrboddie on Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:57 pm



This is a test of a new workflow for making animations. The scene has about 300 soldados marching in the Main Plaza (February 23, 1836). There are many opportunities for improvements here, but I am excited to get this little project through the pipeline.
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Re: Dioramas & Models.

Postby RLC-GTT on Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:04 pm

Excellent!!!!! I want to raise a white flag!

Why "Evens and Company"? Anglo names would not have appeared on buildings until years later, and I don't recall that name. Hopefully, you have found a photo that I don't know about. ;)
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Re: Dioramas & Models.

Postby cc nolen on Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:39 pm

Bravo! That was a nice show...I am glad you shared it with us. Many Thanks.
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Re: Dioramas & Models.

Postby jrboddie on Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:03 pm

Thanks guys. It is a "first draft" just to see if I could do the whole thing. Much more to do on setting up the scene properly, more soldado types, more animation, better textures and lighting. The new animation tool should allow me to render huge crowds of soldiers (think north wall on March 6)!

Rich, here is where I got the notion about Evans and Co.
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Re: Dioramas & Models.

Postby jrboddie on Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:22 pm

And another one. I guess they are both post-revolution depictions. I'll fix in the next version.

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Re: Dioramas & Models.

Postby NefariousNed on Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:40 pm

Yes, if they were Tex revolution period images, then Evans would've probably blown up the building before retiring to the Alamo.
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Re: Dioramas & Models.

Postby RLC-GTT on Sat Mar 18, 2017 4:24 am

I see. I never noticed the name in the Seth Eastman drawing -- or more likely just ignored it since the drawing was done in March 1849 -- long after Anglo and German businessmen began to establish businesses. In 1836, it is highly unlikely that any Yankee other than Nat Lewis had a business let alone a sign. I have even wondered if Bexarenos had signs for their minimum number of businesses. "Cantina" may have been an exception. LOL. Michael Corenblith and I had this same conversation in 2003 when he was building the sets for THE ALAMO. He actually had a building named after his daughter Grace -- Hotel Graciela -- just to the right of Bowie's cantina, but finally painted out all names. The Bexarenos knew where the few businesses were, and the Anglos weren't there yet.
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Re: Dioramas & Models.

Postby RLC-GTT on Sat Mar 18, 2017 4:30 am

I am very impressed and excited about your advances with animation. Wow, Jim. This is getting very fun-filled. Keep up the good work. By the way, who did the second painting (or is it modern)? I've never seen it before. Looks like somebody tried to combine Eastman's work with Samuel's.
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Re: Dioramas & Models.

Postby jrboddie on Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:10 pm

Rich, I'm sorry to say that I am pretty terrible at recording the sources of my reference images. I seem to recall that the second image is a more recent work and borrows from the earlier paintings. It may be a cropped image of a mural that was sent to me by someone a few years ago or something I found in a "deep dive" into an online collection that is not searchable by google. I am going to remove it from my post because of potential copyright issues.
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Re: Dioramas & Models.

Postby RLC-GTT on Sun Mar 19, 2017 3:30 am

Oooops. I didn't mean for you to remove it. But, if there is a risk, then perhaps it's for the best. It was interesting and I was curious why I'd never come across it before.. I was pretty sure it is of recent origin.
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Re: Dioramas & Models.

Postby gh1836 on Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:21 am

Enjoyed the animation Jim! More please!
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Re: Dioramas & Models.

Postby cc nolen on Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:40 pm

While in for HHD's Linda took some cool shots at the Toy Store in the Menger. Enjoy.
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Re: Dioramas & Models.

Postby cc nolen on Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:44 pm

LOL! check out the Nazi Flag in the back ground.... :roll:
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Postby cc nolen on Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:45 pm

More.... :D
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Re: Dioramas & Models.

Postby cc nolen on Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:47 pm

Never enough time to see everything, but dont miss Kings-X Toys. :D
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Re: Dioramas & Models.

Postby Seguin on Sun Apr 02, 2017 1:14 am

It´s a great diorama! It may not be accurate in every way, but it´s still pretty good.
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Re: Dioramas & Models.

Postby SantaClaus on Sun Apr 02, 2017 1:53 am

Great pictures, Chris. They sure have some great creations in that store. :)
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Re: Dioramas & Models.

Postby jrboddie on Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:28 pm



Some improvements in textures and lighting. Added an officer on horseback and flag bearer. Changed to facade of the church to match the earliest drawings.
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Re: Dioramas & Models.

Postby HunterMike on Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:16 am

jrboddie wrote:

Some improvements in textures and lighting. Added an officer on horseback and flag bearer. Changed to facade of the church to match the earliest drawings.

The movement of everything is really cool and the texture and feel of everything you've created has always been impressive. I'm more impressed that you changed the door to what it was in 1836. And not just the pediment over the door, but the door itself. As soon as you/we can figure out the north side of the church, I look forward to seeing it as it really was in 1836. Thank you for doing that!! Awesome!
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Re: Dioramas & Models.

Postby SantaClaus on Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:22 am

Very impressive, and very cool! 8-)
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Re: Dioramas & Models.

Postby NefariousNed on Tue May 16, 2017 5:48 pm

For those of you who have never had the chance to see it in person, someone did a clandestine
video of Mark Lemon's model in the history shop with narration by Phil Collins. I wish the person
had had the chance to walk around the model. Video is about 12 minutes long.
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Re: Dioramas & Models.

Postby Seguin on Wed May 17, 2017 12:26 am

Cool! - What´s the white building in the upper right corner? A model of the History Shop?
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Re: Dioramas & Models.

Postby NefariousNed on Wed May 17, 2017 1:03 am

Seguin wrote:Cool! - What´s the white building in the upper right corner? A model of the History Shop?

Exactly! To show where it stands in reference to the Alamo grounds. Now that the History Shop has closed its doors,
here's hoping the model makes its way into the proposed Phil Collins museum.
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Re: Dioramas & Models.

Postby cc nolen on Wed May 17, 2017 2:18 pm

Nice job....wish they could bring that to the Alamo Symposium in 2018. :D
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