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International Folk Songs

Postby NefariousNed on Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:56 pm

As kids, we learned a lot about other cultures through the folks songs we were taught in school. Although
a skewed view, at least it was a peek at something other than our safe, Middle America, whitebread
view of the planet.

Here's one about a Zulu warrior that I was surprised to see that kids still sing, "Zimba Zaya".

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Re: International Folk Songs

Postby NefariousNed on Fri Jun 17, 2016 3:00 pm

Then there was "Sarasponda", a Dutch spinning song. Like "Zimba Zaya", it was sung in "rounds" always
popular with kids.

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Re: International Folk Songs

Postby NefariousNed on Fri Jun 17, 2016 3:07 pm


A trip to Australia with "Kookabura", another "rounds" song" we kids loved.
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Re: International Folk Songs

Postby NefariousNed on Fri Jun 17, 2016 3:25 pm

A trip to Scotland with "Aiken Drum". (They left out the verses, "His hat was made of good cream
cheese", and "His britches were made of haggis bags.")

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Re: International Folk Songs

Postby NefariousNed on Fri Jun 17, 2016 3:48 pm


A popular song at Wurstfest, "Valderi Valdera", or "The Happy Wanderer".

"I love to go a'wandering along the mountain track.
And As I go, I love to sing, my knapsack on my back.
Valderi, Valdera, Valderi, Valder a ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Valderi, Valdera, my knapsack on my back!"
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Re: International Folk Songs

Postby NefariousNed on Mon Sep 05, 2016 1:14 am

Guitarist Fred Hellerman, last of the controversial 1940's folk group, The Weavers, has died at the age
of 89. The Weavers, consisting of Pete Seeger, Hellerman, Ronnie Gilbert and Lee Hays, were union
activists who subsequently got blacklisted during the McCarthism reign of terror in the early 50s and
were forced to break up in 1952. They regrouped in 1955 however and influenced a slew of 1960's folk
luminaries like Joan Baez, Bob Dylan, Peter, Paul And Mary, The Kingston Trio, and Judy Collins. Their
recordings of Huddie (Leadbelly) Ledbetter's "Goodnight Irene", Woody Guthrie's "So Long, It's Been
Good To Know Yuh", and the standard, "Kisses Sweeter Than Wine" alone have carved them a wide niche
in the roots of the popular folk music tree. The group broke up in 1964, but reunited briefly in 1980.

My favorite The Weaver recording remains "Wimoweh", an old Zulu folk song originally titled "Mbube"
and later, "The Lion Sleeps Tonight". This video shows the group singing the song during their 1980
reunion tour. Pete Seeger could still hit those high notes!
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Re: International Folk Songs

Postby NefariousNed on Fri Dec 16, 2016 10:59 pm

In keeping with the season, here's a medley of two Mexican Christmas carols performed by the Padre
Choristers of California's Mission Santa Barbara. The LP of the mission's Las Posadas program,
recorded in 1952, the year of my birth, was a Christmas tradition on our family record player. Enjoy!
Don 't worry. It's short. Venid Pastores/Pastores a Belen (Come, Shepherds/The Shepherds of
Bethlehem)

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Re: International Folk Songs

Postby Seguin on Sat Dec 17, 2016 4:07 am

Very nice! I like the music and singing, although i don´t understand a word of it.
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Re: International Folk Songs

Postby NefariousNed on Thu May 04, 2017 12:40 am


An old favorite, "The Erie Canal". Who sang this one in school? (some nice animation here.)
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Re: International Folk Songs

Postby ConnieFromHaiti on Thu May 04, 2017 1:13 am

I did! And I lived for about 11 years right in that area -- I went ice skating on a portion of the Erie Canal when we lived in Fayetteville, NY, right near Syracuse. Toured the Erie Canal Museum in downtown Syracuse when we first moved there. But I learned the song in elementary school in State College, PA. Not all the same verses that are in your video, and the tune was somewhat different, but close enough. My friends and I used to sing it around the camp fire (or the wood stove) when we were camping in high school. Thanks for a fun memory. :D
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Re: International Folk Songs

Postby RLC-GTT on Thu May 04, 2017 2:13 am

And, while I too learned it in grade school in Pennsylvania (Shamokin for me), my greatest connection to the song is in Alfred Newman's magnificent music score for How the West Was Won presented with a full orchestra and chorus. I remember my brother (Connie's father) pointing the canal remnants out on one of our drives around the Syracuse area.
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Re: International Folk Songs

Postby NefariousNed on Fri May 19, 2017 2:10 am

How long does it take for a song to be considered a "folk song"? I think this one has earned that status.
And Ronda Swindell touches the heart with this version.
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Re: International Folk Songs

Postby Seguin on Sat May 20, 2017 3:44 am

NefariousNed wrote:How long does it take for a song to be considered a "folk song"? I think this one has earned that status.
And Ronda Swindell touches the heart with this version.


Not bad at all! - Folk songs seems to be a weird concept because musicians like Bob Dylan made "folk songs" in the 60´s. One should think folk songs are old songs but that was´nt the case in the 60´s when folk songs had a renaissance and many new ones were made and labeled "folk songs" or contemporary folk music:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contemporary_folk_music

Of course, there´s also traditional folk music:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folk_music
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Re: International Folk Songs

Postby NefariousNed on Mon May 22, 2017 8:31 pm

"Ballad Of Omie Wise", or "John Lewis" tells the story of the murder of 19 year old Naomi Wise
at the hands of John Lewis in 1808 Randolph County, North Carolina.

Apparently Omie's "disgrace" was being pregnant and unwed.

(Sorry for the rough recording. Lyrics are below.)

~Ballad Of Omie Wise~

She met him as she'd promised
Up at Adams' Spring
Expecting some money,
Or some other fine thing.

No money, no money
To flatter the case,
We'll have to get married,
So there'll be no disgrace.

So jump you up Omie
And away we will ride
To yonder far country
And I'll make you my bride.

She jumped up behind him
And away they did go
To yonder far country
Where the deep waters flow.

Now jump you down Omie
And I'll tell you my mind.
My mind is to drown you
And to leave you behind.

She begged and she pleaded.
Oh Don't take my life!
And I will deny you,
And I'll not be your wife.

Well she kicked and he cuffed her,
To The worst, understand
Then he threw her in deep water
That flows through the land.

They found her poor body
The following day
Washed up on the river
And As cold as the clay.

They traced him up the water
To Dutch Charlie's bend
Where they found him in jail
For killing a man.

Go hang him, go hang him
Was the judge's command
And throw him in deep water
That flows through the land.
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Re: International Folk Songs

Postby Seguin on Tue May 23, 2017 5:49 am

What a sad song.
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Re: International Folk Songs

Postby NefariousNed on Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:39 pm

I mentioned over in the Alamo in England thread how in the evening some of the reenactors would sing
and play around the campfire and how I'd heard a song that sounded like the early American folk song,
"Turkey In The Straw". Well, here it is. "The Rose Tree". The tune was published in Scotland in 1774
under the title "The Irish Lilt." The lyrics for "A Rose Tree" may possibly be Scottish in origin. A similar
melody is also used for the English hymn, "Jerusalem."

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Re: International Folk Songs

Postby Seguin on Fri Aug 18, 2017 1:18 pm

Glad to see musicians keeping folk music alive.
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Re: International Folk Songs

Postby NefariousNed on Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:48 pm

Here's one near and dear to my heart. It's a Czech folk song that caters to children called "Ja Mam Kone".
(I Have A Horse"). My Mom sang it to my big sister Diane and then she would sing it to us kids. I haven't
heard it since then. Nice to see kids are still singing it.

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Re: International Folk Songs

Postby SantaClaus on Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:25 am

NefariousNed wrote:
An old favorite, "The Erie Canal". Who sang this one in school? (some nice animation here.)

Usually don't check this thread because I don't know much about music. Happened to look today and I noticed that Ned mentioned "The Erie Canal" a few months back. There's a connection to poor Charlotte's medical problems in Wales, because reports about her reminded me of something that happened to me 10 or 15 years ago when I was diagnosed with Ischemic Colitis and had to have a colonoscopy. They gave me some kind of drug before the doctor began the procedure, and most of what I did or said during the procedure is very hazy, but I think I sang my own rendition of "The Erie Canal", using my substitution lyrics of "16 years on the anal canal". I don't know for sure what all I said while under their drugs, but when I was coming out of it as they wheeled me out of the examination room, the doctors and nurses were all laughing.
It just shows that folk music can be entertaining anytime and any place. :lol:
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Re: International Folk Songs

Postby Seguin on Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:48 am

Here's one near and dear to my heart. It's a Czech folk song that caters to children called "Ja Mam Kone".
(I Have A Horse"). My Mom sang it to my big sister Diane and then she would sing it to us kids. I haven't
heard it since then. Nice to see kids are still singing it.


Then it must be really something for you to hear it again after all those years.
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Re: International Folk Songs

Postby NefariousNed on Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:20 am



"The Bells OF Rhymney" was written by Pete Seeger using words from the poem of Welsh Poet Idris
Davies. According to Wikipedia, "the poem also refers to the bells of a number of other places in
South Wales, including Merthyr, Rhondda, Blaina, Caerphilly, Neath, Brecon, Swansea, Newport,
Cardiff, and the Wye Valley. " Rhymney also follows the pattern of the nursery rhyme "Oranges
and Lemons", with it's mention of bells. The most famous version of the song (shown here being
performed live) was recorded by the 1960's Folk-Rock band, The Byrds.

Mo and Gill may be quick to note how the pronunciation of "Rhymney" is actually "Rumney". ;)

And here is "Oranges And Lemons", performed by Tim Hart of Steeleye Span.
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Re: International Folk Songs

Postby NefariousNed on Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:23 am

A different song of the American Civil War, "Poor Kitty Popcorn" tells the tragic tale of a four-legged
feline hero.
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Re: International Folk Songs

Postby Seguin on Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:11 am

A different song of the American Civil War, "Poor Kitty Popcorn" tells the tragic tale of a four-legged
feline hero.


Speaking of felines, I always liked, "My Girl´s Pussy", with the double-entendre lyrics here played by
Harry Roy & His Orchestra in 1931.

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Re: International Folk Songs

Postby NefariousNed on Fri Nov 03, 2017 1:46 pm


Another delightful import from France that is a favorite of both children and adults alike, "Frere Jacque".
Like many popular children's songs, it is sung in rounds.
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Re: International Folk Songs

Postby NefariousNed on Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:33 am

From the "Visiting New Braunfels" thread.
NefariousNed wrote:
The Celtaire String Band performing, "I'll Fly Away" today at Heritage Day, Museum Of Texas Handmade
Furniture in Heritage Village, New Braunfels.
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Re: International Folk Songs

Postby NefariousNed on Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:24 am

In keeping with the season, The Gloucestershire Wassail. Looks as though it is being sung in a pub here.
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