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Alamo Village Visit 2014

Postby DocWylie on Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:55 pm

On Wednesday November 12, 2014, I had the good fortune to be able to visit Brackettville and Alamo Village
after having last been there over 27 years ago. Of course, Richard Curilla was there to give his unparalleled
all-inclusive, behind-the-scenes tour as was Ned Huthmacher and the lovely Ms. M.! It was a wonderful day -
one that I shall not soon forget and one that I hope someday to repeat..and not wait 27 years to do so! In the
meantime, I can relive our day through these photos and share them with all of you. I realize Ned has also
posted pics of this day, and while mine do not equal his fine renditions, why not look at Alamo Village and
the Waynamo again and again!
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Re: Alamo Village 2014

Postby DocWylie on Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:57 pm

More...

My fist look at the Waynamo in a long, long time. I cannot adequately describe the emotion...
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Re: Alamo Village 2014

Postby DocWylie on Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:58 pm

and more...

I bought my "1824 " flag in 1990 in WIlmington, VT, of all places! It has flown from my front porch many times and I could not come here without bringing it along.
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Re: Alamo Village 2014

Postby DocWylie on Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:59 pm

still more...
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Re: Alamo Village 2014

Postby DocWylie on Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:01 pm

are you still with me?
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Re: Alamo Village 2014

Postby DocWylie on Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:02 pm

just a few more...

Always a wealth of knowledge, I think Rich was telling us what saint's statues were supposed to go in which niche!
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Re: Alamo Village 2014

Postby DocWylie on Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:03 pm

The Chapel, or Church as some would have it, with a view of Parson's Hill. It was a bit too cold to hike up there this trip, but next time perhaps.

That's all for now. Gotta go shovel snow.
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Re: Alamo Village 2014

Postby NefariousNed on Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:40 am

Good stuff, Tom. You even got that "Gone To Texas" fake Presidio La Bahia tower. (Which should be kept indoors somewhere.)
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Re: Alamo Village 2014

Postby Seguin on Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:11 am

Great photos! Thanks, for sharing.
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Re: Alamo Village 2014

Postby DocWylie on Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:43 am

PART II - More Waynamo pics:
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Re: Alamo Village 2014

Postby DocWylie on Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:46 am

Incredibly, this is the same tree that was on "fire" in The Alamo. Rich tells us it is a species that never gets any bigger than this, and so it has been here for over 60 years!
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Re: Alamo Village 2014

Postby DocWylie on Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:49 am

Rich and Ned having one of their many debates over fine points in The Alamo! It was a treat to be there to witness them. :lol:
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Re: Alamo Village 2014

Postby DocWylie on Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:51 am

Scaling laders from The Alamo in storage... and Flag Ceremony conducted by Ned and I, under Rich's orders. We had to improvise since the flag mound was gone as was the flag pole!
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Re: Alamo Village 2014

Postby DocWylie on Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:55 am

Ned, Rich and I reenacting the Death of Crockett scene. Just HAD to do it! I'm sure y"all understand. :lol:
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Re: Alamo Village 2014

Postby RLC-GTT on Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:58 am

DocWylie wrote:Incredibly, this is the same tree that was on "fire" in The Alamo. Rich tells us it is a species that never gets any bigger than this, and so it has been here for over 60 years!
Well...... Most trees in S.W. Texas never get any bigger than that. :lol:
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Re: Alamo Village 2014

Postby DocWylie on Fri Nov 21, 2014 1:01 am

The area around the steps to the top of the gate. Obviously no longer safe to use. I have fond memories of
climbing these back in '73 when it was still possible to do so and remembering the many scenes in The Alamo they framed.
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Re: Alamo Village 2014

Postby DocWylie on Fri Nov 21, 2014 1:05 am

Before leaving the Waynamo, they indulged me by letting me reenact Travis shooting the cavalryman off his
horse after the cattle raid party returned. It stirred my very soul!
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Re: Alamo Village 2014

Postby mrbassbone on Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:58 am

DocWylie wrote:The area around the steps to the top of the gate. Obviously no longer safe to use. I have fond memories of climbing these back in '73 when it was still possible to do so and remembering the many scenes in The Alamo they framed.


I climbed them back in '95 when I was there and again in '05 <when Davy shanghai'ed me and we spent the day there...LOL>. I do not remember which time it was, but climbing those steps one of those "prickly leafs" caught my in my right leg and I "shed blood" for the Alamo.
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Re: Alamo Village 2014

Postby DocWylie on Fri Nov 21, 2014 7:18 pm

mrbassbone wrote:climbing those steps one of those "prickly leafs" caught my in my right leg and I "shed blood" for the Alamo.


That's quite a distinction! An honor, I might add! :lol:

The way they look now, it's like in those old slapstick movies when a staircase would suddenly flatten and become a slide.
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Re: Alamo Village 2014

Postby DocWylie on Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:17 pm

More photos from my November 12 visit. Much the same as what Ned has already posted, but what the heck!
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Re: Alamo Village 2014

Postby DocWylie on Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:20 pm

I'm sorry... but I insisted I was going to sing on stage at the Cantina...and I did!
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Re: Alamo Village 2014

Postby DocWylie on Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:22 pm

A place I had never been able to see in previous visits... the scene where Crockett delivers his "Republic" speech. Also more Cantina scenes.
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Re: Alamo Village 2014

Postby DocWylie on Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:24 pm

Another tourist "must do"... the feather contest. Also, Rich's model comparing the footprints of the Waynamo to the Realamo.
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Re: Alamo Village 2014

Postby DocWylie on Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:28 pm

More of Rich's model, plus views inside the San Fernando Church. Had to photograph the "powder barrels" and reminisce about the Beekeeper's almost fatal error!
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Re: Alamo Village 2014

Postby DocWylie on Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:47 pm

The famous JOhn Wayne Museum, and original lattice from the Cantina
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Re: Alamo Village 2014

Postby DocWylie on Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:49 pm

The "other" Cantina... and the back of the Hotel.
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Re: Alamo Village 2014

Postby DocWylie on Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:51 pm

A few pics of Rich's outstanding 1/72 scale models.
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Re: Alamo Village 2014

Postby DocWylie on Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:53 pm

Bowie's room in Bexar and a couple more views.
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Re: Alamo Village 2014

Postby DocWylie on Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:02 pm

Finally, my last look at the Waynamo from the window of my car as we left. I came all the way down from snowy Buffalo specifically for what I intended to be my last look at Alamo Village. It took me 26 years to get back here since my last visit, and I figured one more look-see would satisfy me. However, as Jethro would have surely told me, "I'm an old man..but you're WRONG!". This visit only made me want to come back again, and enjoying the day with Ned and Rich reinforced that feeling. Not quite sure when it will be, but I will be back (assuming Rich will open the gates for me again when I do)

SO... Thank you Rich for letting me back in and for the great and memorable tour, and thank you Ned for sharing the day with us . Thank you both for humoring my requests for staged photos reenacting scenes from the film! It was a blast!
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Re: Alamo Village 2014

Postby RLC-GTT on Mon Dec 01, 2014 1:06 am

Great having you Tom. "We'll do 'er again."

By the way, just for the record, all my model work at the village is 1/120 scale created to fit the model railroad N-guage trains and accessories. Wish I would have had the room for a 1/72 scale HO-guage layout. Heck, I wish I'd have had the room for a much much bigger one. ;)
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Re: Alamo Village 2014

Postby Seguin on Mon Dec 01, 2014 4:16 am

Great photos of Alamo Village and Rich´ model is just awesome!
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Postby cc nolen on Tue Dec 02, 2014 2:23 am

Good Stuff Guys...I enjoyed to tour - as always :D
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Re: Alamo Village 2014

Postby mrbassbone on Tue Dec 02, 2014 1:34 pm

All the posts are grand. Makes us all want to do er agin......and we SHOULD. HHD's for sure!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Alamo Village 2014

Postby wconly on Fri Dec 26, 2014 11:33 am

And, speaking of "Alamo Village 2014" This is the first story I noticed this morning on Yahoo from AP! Sure hope this one gets around and gains an audience with real interest in restoring the 'Village.' W>

https://www.yahoo.com/movies/s/texas-mo ... 47022.html

Texas movie set used by John Wayne fading away
Associated Press
MICHAEL GRACZYK
‎December‎ ‎26‎, ‎2014

In this Dec. 4, 2014 photo, Rich Curilla locks the doors to a replica of the Alamo, built for John Wayne's 1960 movie "The Alamo," in Brackettville, Texas. Wayne’s movie about the famous siege marked his debut as a director and had an estimated budget of $12 million, huge at that time. (AP Photo/Eric Gay)In this Dec. 4, 2014 photo, Rich Curilla locks the doors to a replica of the Alamo, built for John Wayne's 1960 movie "The Alamo," in Brackettville, Texas. Wayne’s movie about the famous siege marked his debut as a director and had an estimated budget of $12 million, huge at that time. (AP Photo/Eric Gay)

BRACKETTVILLE, Texas (AP) — Time and Mother Nature are threatening to dismantle the Alamo. Not the original, but the replica 18th-century Spanish mission and Old West movie set John Wayne built for his Oscar-nominated 1960 movie and that for decades was a tourist mecca and film production site.

In this Dec. 4, 2014 photo, Rich Curilla walks past a replica of the San Fernando Cathedral, built for John Wayne's 1960 movie "The Alamo," in Brackettville, Texas. The movie set includes a full-scale re-creation of the Alamo compound. (AP Photo/Eric Gay)In this Dec. 4, 2014 photo, Rich Curilla walks past a replica of the San Fernando Cathedral, built for John Wayne's 1960 movie "The Alamo," in Brackettville, Texas. The movie set includes a full-scale re-creation of the Alamo compound. (AP Photo/Eric Gay)

"It's not just something that represents history to a movie set — it is now history for sure," says Rich Curilla, the one-man curator and custodian of the now-closed Alamo Village.

Alamo Village, a 400-acre plot of land about 120 miles west of San Antonio, was carved out of a large ranch in the late 1950s for Wayne's directorial debut. Starring Richard Widmark as Jim Bowie and Wayne as Davy Crockett, "The Alamo" had an estimated $12 million budget, huge for its time.

In this Dec. 4, 2014 photo, a photo of actor John Wayne rests on a counter of a saloon, built for Wayne's 1960 movie "The Alamo," in Brackettville, Texas. The movie set includes a full-scale re-creation of the Alamo compound. (AP Photo/Eric Gay)In this Dec. 4, 2014 photo, a photo of actor John Wayne rests on a counter of a saloon, built for Wayne's 1960 movie "The Alamo," in Brackettville, Texas. The movie set includes a full-scale re-creation of the Alamo compound. (AP Photo/Eric Gay)

The 4-foot-thick Alamo facade was modeled off a 1936 map of the historic building — drawn up for the Texas centennial that year — and set construction took nearly two years. Unlike the real Alamo, which is dwarfed by taller buildings in the heart of San Antonio, the view from Wayne's Alamo offered a panorama of iconic Texas and Western images.


In this Dec. 4, 2014 photo, a restroom fashioned to blend with the set built for John Wayne's 1960 movie "The Alamo" is grown over by weeds in Brackettville, Texas. The movie set includes a full-scale re-creation of the Alamo compound and a representation of the village of San Antonio de Bexar. (AP Photo/Eric Gay)In this Dec. 4, 2014 photo, a restroom fashioned to blend with the set built for John Wayne's 1960 movie "The Alamo" is grown over by weeds in Brackettville, Texas. The movie set includes a full-scale re-creation of the Alamo compound and a representation of the village of San Antonio de Bexar. (AP Photo/Eric Gay)

"To Hollywood, a movie set is just a means to an end," said Curilla, a film and Alamo historian who spent his summers in college during the late 1960s at the site and began working there full-time in 1988. "I think Wayne was cognizant of building a monument and not just a movie set."

In this Dec. 4, 2014 photo, Rich Curilla walks through a replica of the Alamo compound, built for John Wayne's 1960 movie "The Alamo," in Brackettville, Texas. Alamo Village, a 400-acre plot of land about 120 miles west of San Antonio, was carved out of a large ranch in the late 1950s for Wayne's directorial debut. (AP Photo/Eric Gay)In this Dec. 4, 2014 photo, Rich Curilla walks through a replica of the Alamo compound, built for John Wayne's 1960 movie "The Alamo," in Brackettville, Texas. Alamo Village, a 400-acre plot of land about 120 miles west of San Antonio, was carved out of a large ranch in the late 1950s for Wayne's directorial debut. (AP Photo/Eric Gay)

In its heyday, Wayne's Alamo hosted Jimmy Stewart, Dean Martin, Raquel Welch and even Willie Nelson. It's where James Arness reprised his famous Matt Dillon role in a "Gunsmoke" TV movie.

In all, nearly 40 major film and TV productions, plus hundreds of commercials, documentaries and music videos were shot at Alamo Village. And musical shows, comedy skits and staged gunfights drew hundreds of tourists daily.

In this Dec. 4, 2014 photo, part of the set for John Wayne's 1960 movie "The Alamo" still stands in Brackettville, Texas. Time and Mother Nature are threatening to dismantle the replica. The replica 18th Century Spanish mission and Old West movie set Wayne built for his Oscar-nominated movie and that for decades was a tourist mecca and film production site. (AP Photo/Eric Gay)In this Dec. 4, 2014 photo, part of the set for John Wayne's 1960 movie "The Alamo" still stands in Brackettville, Texas. Time and Mother Nature are threatening to dismantle the replica. The replica 18th Century Spanish mission and Old West movie set Wayne built for his Oscar-nominated movie and that for decades was a tourist mecca and film production site. (AP Photo/Eric Gay)

"It was magical," said Penny Loewen, who was 18 in 1979 when she arrived from tiny St. Francisville, Illinois. She stayed for three years, getting paid $350 a month to sing and perform six days a week, 11 hours a day.

In this Dec. 4, 2014 photo, a replica of the Alamo built for John Wayne's 1960 movie "The Alamo," is framed by arches at the movie set in Brackettville, Texas. Time and Mother Nature are threatening to dismantle the Alamo. Not the original, but the replica 18th Century Spanish mission and Old West movie set Wayne built for his Oscar-nominated movie and that for decades was a tourist mecca and film production site. (AP Photo/Eric Gay)In this Dec. 4, 2014 photo, a replica of the Alamo built for John Wayne's 1960 movie "The Alamo," is framed by arches at the movie set in Brackettville, Texas. Time and Mother Nature are threatening to dismantle the Alamo. Not the original, but the replica 18th Century Spanish mission and Old West movie set Wayne built for his Oscar-nominated movie and that for decades was a tourist mecca and film production site. (AP Photo/Eric Gay)

"We would do just about anything," the 55-year-old retired Nashville songwriter who remained involved with movie productions for 20 years said. "That was the most fun I ever had in my life."

Business at Alamo Village began to wane in the 1980s when traffic along the main east-west route through South Texas shifted north with completion of Interstate 10. It closed to the public after the last remaining owner died in 2009 and the property was divided among heirs. The land now primarily is used for cattle grazing and hunting.

In this Dec. 4, 2014 photo, Rich Curilla walks through the gates of a replica of the Alamo compound, built for John Wayne's 1960 movie "The Alamo," in Brackettville, Texas. The movie set includes a full-scale re-creation of the Alamo compound. (AP Photo/Eric Gay)In this Dec. 4, 2014 photo, Rich Curilla walks through the gates of a replica of the Alamo compound, built for John Wayne's 1960 movie "The Alamo," in Brackettville, Texas. The movie set includes a full-scale re-creation of the Alamo compound. (AP Photo/Eric Gay)

In recent years, a large crack has developed on the front of the Alamo facade. A tree grows inside. Other walls and structures that have been replaced or redone are failing.

At the main entrance to the ranch, only an abandoned ticket booth and a weathered sign telling visitors they're entering the world's largest outdoor movie set hint at its storied past.

"The weather and elements are taking a toll on it," Texas Film Commission Director Heather Page said. "I think it would be disappointing to lose something like that."

Corpus Christi businessman David Jones, 74, envisions saving Alamo Village as a Texas version of Old Tucson, a thriving Old West theme park in southern Arizona.

Jones, who describes himself as a lifelong friend of the former owners, says he's close to raising the $8 million he believes is necessary to buy the property and ready it for visitors. The remote location won't be a deterrent, Jones says, noting that Big Bend National Park, some 200 miles to the west, typically draws more than 300,000 visitors a year.

"The place really needs to be more than preserved," he said. "It needs to be rehabilitated. ... It has two icons, John Wayne and the Alamo, known to everybody all over the world."

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wconly wrote:And, speaking of "Alamo Village 2014" This is the first story I noticed this morning on Yahoo from AP! Sure hope this one gets around and gains an audience with real interest in restoring the 'Village.' W>

https://www.yahoo.com/movies/s/texas-mo ... 47022.html

Saw this on the E-N website. This AP reporter works out of the Houston office, I think. Good story with great photos. I learned a bit more about Jones and how much he's trying to raise to buy the place.
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Re: Alamo Village 2014

Postby wconly on Sat Dec 27, 2014 3:22 am

Rick wrote:
wconly wrote:And, speaking of "Alamo Village 2014" This is the first story I noticed this morning on Yahoo from AP! Sure hope this one gets around and gains an audience with real interest in restoring the 'Village.' W>

https://www.yahoo.com/movies/s/texas-mo ... 47022.html

Saw this on the E-N website. This AP reporter works out of the Houston office, I think. Good story with great photos. I learned a bit more about Jones and how much he's trying to raise to buy the place.

Yeah...still 'just a dream,' but boy what a wonderful dream this might be, if only the right-minded (and, willing) folks were to jump in ;) ! W>
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Postby Seguin on Sat Dec 27, 2014 3:57 am

This part of the article sounds promising:

"Jones, who describes himself as a lifelong friend of the former owners, says he's close to raising the $8 million he believes is necessary to buy the property and ready it for visitors."
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Postby gh1836 on Sat Dec 27, 2014 6:00 pm

wconly wrote:
Rick wrote:
wconly wrote:And, speaking of "Alamo Village 2014" This is the first story I noticed this morning on Yahoo from AP! Sure hope this one gets around and gains an audience with real interest in restoring the 'Village.' W>

https://www.yahoo.com/movies/s/texas-mo ... 47022.html

Saw this on the E-N website. This AP reporter works out of the Houston office, I think. Good story with great photos. I learned a bit more about Jones and how much he's trying to raise to buy the place.

Yeah...still 'just a dream,' but boy what a wonderful dream this might be, if only the right-minded (and, willing) folks were to jump in ;) ! W>



My wife saw this on facebook last night and wanted me to ask Rich when did they contact him for this story. This morning we saw a crawl on a local news station and were wondering if they did a video news story. Rich?
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Postby NefariousNed on Mon Dec 29, 2014 6:50 pm

Rich are in the cold wilds of Pennsyl-vain-i-ay right now and so is indisposed.
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Postby wconly on Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:25 pm

NefariousNed wrote:Rich are in the cold wilds of Pennsyl-vain-i-ay right now and so is indisposed.

Are you sayin' he's drunk -- boy? Because, if's he's drunk -- say so :shock: ! :lol: ! W>
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