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Re: Other Films Shot At Alamo Village

Postby NefariousNed on Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:24 am

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22) Then Gary called "Action," and the soldado ran into the shot, hesitated, signaled the charge and ran off right.
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Re: Other Films Shot At Alamo Village

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23) Next, the company moved up to the Alamo and set up a point-of-view angle of soldados coming over the north wall.
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Re: Other Films Shot At Alamo Village

Postby NefariousNed on Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:27 am

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24) Here, from the camera set-up, we can see the soldados being formed on the N.W. corner in the distance as Carlos coordinates the
angle from afar.

More tomorrow.........
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Re: Other Films Shot At Alamo Village

Postby NefariousNed on Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:29 am

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16) There was a certain amount of running around behind the camera and through the shot a second or third time to create the illusion
that more men were charging. Virginia Shahan remembered with a laugh how John Wayne even did some of this -- although I always
believed she misremembered and that it was that scene in the POF where the soldados are running in the back gate at the village.

I remember the scene well, Rich. It was the first big scene we participated in in APOF. Took all day to get through that gate and Santa
Anna (Enrique Soldano) could not control his horse.

To go back to the beginning of of Rich Curilla's photos from this past weekend's shoot at Alamo Village for the Gary Heck production of
"Too Many Crocketts" (with captions by Rich) click here: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=747&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=340#p129209
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Re: Other Films Shot At Alamo Village

Postby Seguin on Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:53 am

Great photos! It looks like everything went like clockwork and even the weather gods were with you.
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Re: Other Films Shot At Alamo Village

Postby RLC-GTT on Tue Jun 24, 2014 3:14 pm

More on the way shortly.
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Re: Other Films Shot At Alamo Village

Postby NefariousNed on Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:08 am

Just got more photos and captions from Rich, if anyone is up for them. Let me know.
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Re: Other Films Shot At Alamo Village

Postby K Hale on Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:41 am

I certainly am. Apparently the forum ate my post of last night, which followed Hans' and said "These are very interesting!" Anyway, these ARE very interesting.
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Re: Other Films Shot At Alamo Village

Postby Seguin on Thu Jun 26, 2014 5:04 am

Me too! I would like to see them all. It´s not everyday they shoot a film at Alamo Village.
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Re: Other Films Shot At Alamo Village

Postby RLC-GTT on Thu Jun 26, 2014 5:28 am

Yeah, me too. Really cool stuff! (Wait!)
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Re: Other Films Shot At Alamo Village

Postby NefariousNed on Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:05 am

Alrighty, then! The multitudes have spoken. Here's some more of Richard Curilla's photos from this past weekend's shoot at Alamo
Village. All captions by Rich, as well:

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25) Tommy Partain (Davy Crockett) being coached by stunt coordinator Mark Delesandro (right) for his death stand.
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Re: Other Films Shot At Alamo Village

Postby NefariousNed on Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:06 am

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26) Makeup is touched up as cinematographer Carlos Vilkerman works at conceiving the camera coverage.
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Re: Other Films Shot At Alamo Village

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27) Two members of the Brackettville Volunteer Fire Department with a firetruck and a "plain clothes" law enforcement officer were on
set for the day. This was partly to fulfill Kinney County burn ban exemption requirements.
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Re: Other Films Shot At Alamo Village

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28) Camera crew and the Arri SL-II.
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Re: Other Films Shot At Alamo Village

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29) Shooting part of the overrun.
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Re: Other Films Shot At Alamo Village

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30) Coworker Frank Garza (our dependable maintenance stand-by during events) watches from the carreta -- the only set dressing they
used other than a cannon.
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Re: Other Films Shot At Alamo Village

Postby NefariousNed on Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:14 am

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31) Rehearsal of the stunts continues, with stunt coordinator Mark playing a Mexican soldier in the action.
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Re: Other Films Shot At Alamo Village

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32) No movement is random if safety is to be observed.
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Re: Other Films Shot At Alamo Village

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33) Gary watching the action after answering all questions for his team.
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Re: Other Films Shot At Alamo Village

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34) Frank also standing by, ready for any needs I might have. The big one came right after I took this picture. I enlisted him to drag the
cannon replica up from the John Wayne Museum with his pickup. They had rented it to substitute for the 18-pounder at the southwest
corner.
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Re: Other Films Shot At Alamo Village

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35) Setting up the volley that downs Davy after his last stand.
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Re: Other Films Shot At Alamo Village

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36) Carlos taking advantage of Mrs. Dickenson's stairs to capture a high angle shot of the action.
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Re: Other Films Shot At Alamo Village

Postby NefariousNed on Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:22 am

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37) Davy sure piled 'em up.
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Re: Other Films Shot At Alamo Village

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38) This was the only time during the whole 12-hour day that I saw Carlos perfectly still. He IS a worker -- always thinking; always
visualizing. Loved watching him work.
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Re: Other Films Shot At Alamo Village

Postby NefariousNed on Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:24 am

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39) Gary gives final directions to Tommy -- and friend.

More later.....................

To go back to the beginning of today's offerings of Richard Curilla's on the set photos for the Gary Heck produced TV pilot for "Too Many Crockett's
with captions by Rich his own self, click here: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=747&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=370#p129387
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Re: Other Films Shot At Alamo Village

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25) Tommy Partain (Davy Crockett) being coached by stunt coordinator Mark Delesandro (right) for his death stand.

Now that is one peculiar cap Crockett is wearing there! :o
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Re: Other Films Shot At Alamo Village

Postby K Hale on Thu Jun 26, 2014 1:31 pm

Looks like action took place under the beehive area. Hope nobody alerted the bees.
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Re: Other Films Shot At Alamo Village

Postby RLC-GTT on Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:32 pm

K Hale wrote:Looks like action took place under the beehive area. Hope nobody alerted the bees.

It was hairy for a bit.
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Re: Other Films Shot At Alamo Village

Postby RLC-GTT on Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:36 pm

NefariousNed wrote:

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25) Tommy Partain (Davy Crockett) being coached by stunt coordinator Mark Delesandro (right) for his death stand.

Now that is one peculiar cap Crockett is wearing there! :o

Yes, when he came out in that (to keep the burning sun off his ears), I thought he should also be wearing a T-shirt that said, "You can all go to Hell. I'm going golfing." I then provided my only historical suggestion on the whole shoot. I said, "Davy wasn't at the Alamo to make a hole in one. He was there to make a hole in Juan."
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Re: Other Films Shot At Alamo Village

Postby RLC-GTT on Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:39 pm

Thanks, Nef, for posting more. We are way past the half-way point.
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Re: Other Films Shot At Alamo Village

Postby K Hale on Thu Jun 26, 2014 5:43 pm

A hole in Juan... 8-)
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Re: Other Films Shot At Alamo Village

Postby RLC-GTT on Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:07 pm

K Hale wrote:A hole in Juan... 8-)

Yeah, I know. I'll sit down. lol.
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Re: Other Films Shot At Alamo Village

Postby RLC-GTT on Thu Jun 26, 2014 7:25 pm

Rick, because photos were allowed on this shoot (vs. the GLO shoot), I had my real camera along and took over 200 pix. In the interest of storytelling -- and Ned's posting sanity -- I edited them down to 64 shots. In filmmaking, we would call that a 4:1 shooting ratio. My cell phone cam is useless for anything other than vast wide angles in which you can see nothing of detail, and, above anything else on a movie, getting in close is simply being in the way. Thus, a telephoto lens position is definitely necessary.

As to the Arri, I have no idea what one would cost today. This was Super 16, so film and lab costs came into it too.
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Re: Other Films Shot At Alamo Village

Postby RLC-GTT on Thu Jun 26, 2014 7:30 pm

Another reason I myself might plan not to shoot stills on a production is that I cannot allow myself to get too into the event. I'm there to supervise in relation to Alamo Village -- and watch out for problems not in its best interest (and a million other things). In the case of Gary's film, it was pretty contained and professional without "other" things going on in other places, so I was freer to shoot and provide this "Alamo Village Today" segment for you all.
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Re: Other Films Shot At Alamo Village

Postby K Hale on Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:44 pm

Hey, I consider 10:1 a successful shooting ratio on most things!
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Re: Other Films Shot At Alamo Village

Postby Rick on Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:52 pm

Your "real" camera? What are you using these days?

Nice shots. Telephoto zooms are lifesavers.

Keep these shots coming.

Question: I've noticed in re-enactment photos over the years that many Mexican infantry wear bandanas under the shakos. Are these historically accurate or just common sense to keep foreheads from being rubbed raw?
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Re: Other Films Shot At Alamo Village

Postby martin vasquez on Fri Jun 27, 2014 12:56 am

There are period drawings of bandanas being worn by Mexican officers and regular infantry. Historically during the 1820's-1830's and beyond. The bandana was very popular with the early rancheros and you see in period artwork with many Mexicans wearing highly decorated bandanas. However you do not see them being issued per regulations but very utilitarian. Not to mention how much they help when wearing a very uncomfortable shako! Take it from me!
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Re: Other Films Shot At Alamo Village

Postby Seguin on Fri Jun 27, 2014 3:35 am

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37) Davy sure piled 'em up.


So, I guess Davy did´nt die in front of the church facade this time. It´s probably nice for him to die in another spot for a change. :D

I´m wondering about the Mexican cavalry officer being in the battle inside the Alamo. I thought the Mexican cavalry was located outside the Alamo (Sesma). If so, how can a cavalry officer be part of the battle inside the Alamo?
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Re: Other Films Shot At Alamo Village

Postby RLC-GTT on Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:47 am

You'd have to ask Gary -- and he'd have to ask the cavalry officer. LOL.
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Re: Other Films Shot At Alamo Village

Postby RLC-GTT on Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:48 am

Thanks, Martin. I was kind of wondering the same thing. I guess it's just that these all stood out so much.
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