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Re: Alamo Village Then.

Postby Seguin on Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:53 pm

Reb_Al wrote:He is certainly an accomplished artist I love his work.


I second that! - I hope he publishes a book with all his Alamo artwork some day...
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Re: Alamo Village Then.

Postby Reb_Al on Sat Oct 18, 2008 10:14 pm

Seguin wrote:
Reb_Al wrote:He is certainly an accomplished artist I love his work.


I second that! - I hope he publishes a book with all his Alamo artwork some day...


I'm sure there will be a market for it. I have bought quite a few art books published by War Between the States artists and they seem to sell OK.
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Re: Alamo Village Then.

Postby RLC-GTT on Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:20 am

Nefarious wrote:Image

Back in the early 1980's, Craig Covner tried to convinve Happy Shahan through a series of illustrations that the
Alamo compound could still be restored to its former glory. Here's just one of Craig's wonderful illustrations.


It's cool to see Craig's subtle nudge to Happy about the village too. If you know the view and look carefully, he has removed the Bandolero buildings on the near side of the church so that you can see the complete church -- complete with Ybarra white walls. All I would have added is a removal of the trees blocking the view of the left end of the village. Those have now grown to the point of blocking everything. But, hey, the Shahans love all that greenery. Too bad Hollywood doesn't.
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Re: Alamo Village Then.

Postby annie oakley on Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:47 am

That s is a work of art for sure, it must be nice to have a talent like that.
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Re: Alamo Village Then.

Postby mrbassbone on Sat Oct 25, 2008 5:37 am

Nefarious wrote:Image

Back in the early 1980's, Craig Covner tried to convinve Happy Shahan through a series of illustrations that the
Alamo compound could still be restored to its former glory. Here's just one of Craig's wonderful illustrations.


Compare it to this one.
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Re: Alamo Village Then.

Postby NefariousNed on Sat Oct 25, 2008 2:22 pm

Shrewd eye, Shell. It's the same painting, only a different colour photocopy. The poorer quality reproduction is from back in the 1980's; the newer one is a recent scan I got from Craig Covner. Technology marches on.
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Re: Alamo Village Then.

Postby Seguin on Sun Oct 26, 2008 3:46 am

Ah, so this is the original one, and the other one has been photoshopped, so it almost looks like a photo. In a way, I like the original better because it has the original colors...
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Postby NefariousNed on Sun Oct 26, 2008 3:50 am

No, back in 1981, colour photocopy machines were crap. You got sort of a colour copy, but it was not true to the original image. The newer one that looks like a photo is how Craig's painting actually looks.
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Re: Alamo Village Then.

Postby Seguin on Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:59 am

Nefarious wrote:No, back in 1981, colour photocopy machines were crap. You got sort of a colour copy, but it was not true to the original image. The newer one that looks like a photo is how Craig's painting actually looks.


I see! I´m glad to hear that the newer one is actually how Craig´s painting looks. It´s a great painting! It looks like a photo, so when I saw the older one, I thought the newer one was photoshopped a bit...
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Re: Alamo Village Then.

Postby NefariousNed on Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:28 pm

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Brothers John (foreground) and Rob (background) do a walkaround of the Waynamo compound in 1976.
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Re: Alamo Village Then.

Postby NefariousNed on Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:31 pm

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John and Rob, by the BANDOLERO wall, standing on the platform that was built for the Bicentennial reenactment of the battle of the
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Re: Alamo Village Then.

Postby NefariousNed on Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:34 pm

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John and Rob, laying 'dead' outside the Monk's burial room by the north wall of the chapel. To the left and through that door is what
remained of Jim Bowie's room. Richard Widmark's death scene was by that buttress.
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Re: Alamo Village Then.

Postby NefariousNed on Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:36 pm

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Rob and John duke it out inside the confessional room on the north side of the chapel. Watch that torch, boy!
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Re: Alamo Village Then.

Postby NefariousNed on Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:38 pm

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Rob's the high man on the totem pole on this one. Climbing Laurence Harvey's ladder to the cannon platform by the Alamo facade interior.
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Re: Alamo Village Then.

Postby NefariousNed on Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:34 pm

I just noticed in the above photo that the crack in the keystone was already beginning to develop. :(
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Re: Alamo Village Then.

Postby Seguin on Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:56 am

Nice pics of fond childhood memories, I´m sure.
It´s great that they got an understanding of the Alamo story (and the Waynamo) into their life at an early age..
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Re: Alamo Village Then.

Postby NefariousNed on Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:48 am

Seguin wrote:It´s great that they got an understanding of the Alamo story (and the Waynamo) into their life at an early age..

With me around, they didn't have any choice. :lol:
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Re: Alamo Village Then.

Postby Davy on Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:39 pm

Nefarious wrote:
Seguin wrote:It´s great that they got an understanding of the Alamo story (and the Waynamo) into their life at an early age..

With me around, they didn't have any choice. :lol:



Poor guys! :o :lol: Alamoed to death!

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Re: Alamo Village Then.

Postby TexianAtHeartII on Sat Nov 01, 2008 5:32 am

Davy wrote:
Nefarious wrote:
Seguin wrote:It´s great that they got an understanding of the Alamo story (and the Waynamo) into their life at an early age..

With me around, they didn't have any choice. :lol:



Poor guys! :o :lol: Alamoed to death!

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Re: Alamo Village Then.

Postby Davy on Sat Nov 01, 2008 4:40 pm

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Davy, one can never be too Alamoed.


Alamoed down in the prime of his youth! :D

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Re: Alamo Village Then.

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Re: Alamo Village Then.

Postby NefariousNed on Sat Nov 01, 2008 6:17 pm

Hey, BANDOLERO is showing on AMC right now, for those of you who have it.
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Re: Alamo Village Then.

Postby NefariousNed on Sun Nov 02, 2008 5:21 am

What a difference 33 years makes! Both of the following photos were taken at about the same angle.

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Profile of the Waynamo's back courtyard gates and the chapel, 1975.

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Profile of the Waynamo's back courtyard gates and the chapel, 2008.
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Re: Alamo Village Then.

Postby Alamo John UK on Sun Nov 02, 2008 10:26 am

it's nice to see that little bush has "all growed up" ( assuming it's the same one of course ? )
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Re: Alamo Village Then.

Postby MUSTANG on Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:27 am

Nice "before and after" there. Those type shots are always interesting. If you want to see something neat, take a look at the small bush next to Linda Cristal in the Wayne 'praying to the North star" scene. The bush is still there today only MUCH LARGER!!!!!!!
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Re: Alamo Village Then.

Postby NefariousNed on Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:09 am

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Virginia and Happy Shahan, behind the Hotel San Antonio/Tradin' Post.
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Re: Alamo Village Then.

Postby NefariousNed on Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:12 am

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Alamo Village, early 1980's.
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Re: Alamo Village Then.

Postby Chaska on Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:36 am

Nefarious wrote:Image
John and Rob, laying 'dead' outside the Monk's burial room by the north wall of the chapel. To the left and through that door is what
remained of Jim Bowie's room. Richard Widmark's death scene was by that buttress.

Same spot, October 1976...
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Re: Alamo Village Then.

Postby Chaska on Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:40 am

Nefarious wrote:Image
1975, gate to Long Barrack courtyard.

One year later...
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Re: Alamo Village Then.

Postby NefariousNed on Sun Nov 23, 2008 5:25 pm

Well Chaska, the clarity of your images sure beats the heck out of mine. Thanks for posting.
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Re: Alamo Village Then.

Postby NefariousNed on Sun Nov 23, 2008 5:27 pm

Here's another nice video postcard of Alamo Village, showing the Long Barrack without the Pink Hump.

CLICK HERE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7MjTDXtLus
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Re: Alamo Village Then.

Postby Davy on Sun Nov 23, 2008 6:31 pm

Its amazing to watch the transition thru these images ... almost like a change of seasons more or less! :D

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Re: Alamo Village Then.

Postby Seguin on Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:18 am

Nice video clip! There´s a bunch of Alamo Village video clips on Youtube, even one in 5 parts almost 50 min. long. The quality could be better but it does catch a lot of details:

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Re: Alamo Village Then.

Postby NefariousNed on Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:11 am

I was just speaking to some good neighbours of mine. The husband got his start in real estate by selling property at Fort Clark. While working there, they set up their camper by Las Moras Creek and sort of roughed it. While they never really knew Happy Shahan, they would often seem him eating at the Burger and Shake Restaurant. Since all this just happened to be taking place in 1959, they were there to witness Fort Clark being taken over by Batjac. One day, they decided it would be nice to go and see John Wayne, so they drove to the Alamo set to look for him. To their disappointment, they were told that he had just left for Fort Clark. Back at Fort Clark, they were told that he had just flown back to California, so their chance meeting was gone.

In the intervening years, my neighbours returned to Fort Clark to golf, as they had membership there, but today they find it difficult to make the long drive.
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Re: Alamo Village Then.

Postby NefariousNed on Sun Feb 22, 2009 6:09 am

Nefarious wrote:Image
Happy Shahan's secretary, BJ Burns, in the home of Kaj & Ruth Andersen, Copenhagen, Denmark October, 1984 (Photo by Ruth Andersen)
While in Happy's employ, BJ was a true powerhouse, keeping the machinery of both the Shahan Angus Ranch and Alamo Village in order.
The wonderful stories she could tell, no doubt...

Hey Rich, have you ever heard anything from BJ Burns, or know anything about her whereabouts? I know you're having an Alamo Village employees reunion soon.
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Re: Alamo Village Then.

Postby MUSTANG on Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:41 pm

Does anyone have any exterior photos of the rear of the Alamo church taken immediately after the destruction of the West Wall? The reason I ask is that I have a photo which seems to indicate that over 1/2 of that wall was destroyed in some sort of explosion, or perhaps bulldozed down for whatever reason and I don't recall seeing anything about that in the film. I know the two events were not related. Just wondering. Thanks.
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Re: Alamo Village Then.

Postby AlamoMo on Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:26 am

John

I had a good look through my large collection of photographs
but sadly I only have photographs of the sides and front of
The Alamo after filming was wrapped.

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Re: Alamo Village Then.

Postby NefariousNed on Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:26 pm

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Curiously, the original ALAMO VILLAGE brochure (this one is from 1973) did not feature the Alamo itself.
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Re: Alamo Village Then.

Postby MUSTANG on Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:37 pm

Pretty interesting. Did you notice the Shooting Gallery, the 2 story Parson House, Stagecoach rides, Pony rides and the Photo Gallery? The Village was a happening place!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Alamo Village Then.

Postby quincey morris on Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:27 pm

I really enjoyed going through these photos. Seeing all of you "exploring" Alamo Village brought lots of memories back for me of my first venture into the land of Shahan...
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