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Postby AlamoAl on Sat Jul 09, 2011 6:25 pm

I enjoyed the film as well :D but yeah it was a little to long. :shock: I am sure the Benjamin Bratt character was based on someone if not one person then a composite of many banditos that plauged Texas during it's republic period. ;)
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Re: James A. Michener's Texas (1995)

Postby RLC-GTT on Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:28 pm

That's how Michener's books always worked -- John Ford movies too -- not to mention Lonesome Dove. ;)
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Re: James A. Michener's Texas (1995)

Postby alamonorth on Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:44 pm

This film is being released on dvd on May 7.
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Re: James A. Michener's Texas (1995)

Postby Fargo Fenwyck on Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:44 am

Is this a new dvd? I have mine from Artisian. Oh yeah it should have been done in at least two episodes or better three like the Lonesome Dove films.
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Re: James A. Michener's Texas (1995)

Postby RLC-GTT on Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:17 pm

The problem is basically trying to do a 2-part miniseries (I think it was only two) from a 1096 page novel. Remember the excellent Centennial miniseries that was done form Michener's similar-length novel? That was eleven episodes, thus somewhere north of 20 hours of TV. The Texas miniseries only focused on the revolution and the Republic period. The book covered everything from the Spanish entradas of the 16th. century to the present (1985). Characters in the mini- had to be altered or eliminated in some cases since, without the rest of the backstory, they lost their significance. And, of course, a stupid love triangle had to be added between Benjamin Bratt, Chelsea Field and Patrick Duffy -- because TV's a wasteland. "Theater is life; cinema is art; television is furniture."
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Re: James A. Michener's Texas (1995)

Postby RLC-GTT on Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:20 pm

Fargo Fenwyck wrote:Is this a new dvd? I have mine from Artisian. Oh yeah it should have been done in at least two episodes or better three like the Lonesome Dove films.

Lonesome Dove was actually four episodes, Fenny, and that seems to me to be about the best length. I would truly like to see a genuine Texas Revolution story done in a four-episode format.
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Re: James A. Michener's Texas (1995)

Postby K Hale on Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:12 am

RLC-GTT wrote:And, of course, a stupid love triangle had to be added between Benjamin Bratt, Chelsea Field and Patrick Duffy -- because TV's a wasteland. "Theater is life; cinema is art; television is furniture."

Is she in that? I knew her in California. Her dad, Will Botfield, trained Saddlebred horses at the barn in Burbank where we kept my horse. She came out to ride now and then. Nice lady and a good rider too. IIRC, she also had a sister? It's been a while...
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Re: James A. Michener's Texas (1995)

Postby RLC-GTT on Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:56 am

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RLC-GTT wrote:And, of course, a stupid love triangle had to be added between Benjamin Bratt, Chelsea Field and Patrick Duffy -- because TV's a wasteland. "Theater is life; cinema is art; television is furniture."

Is she in that? I knew her in California. Her dad, Will Botfield, trained Saddlebred horses at the barn in Burbank where we kept my horse. She came out to ride now and then. Nice lady and a good rider too. IIRC, she also had a sister? It's been a while...

She did well in the mini and was quite pleasant on set, for what I saw. She played Mattie Quimper and ran a ferry (Quimper's Ferry) on (I suppose) the Brazos River. Her son in the film was played well as a disgusting character by Anthony Michael Hall. We were eight towns and a cave interior in the film.
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Re: James A. Michener's Texas (1995)

Postby K Hale on Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:59 am

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RLC-GTT wrote:And, of course, a stupid love triangle had to be added between Benjamin Bratt, Chelsea Field and Patrick Duffy -- because TV's a wasteland. "Theater is life; cinema is art; television is furniture."

Is she in that? I knew her in California. Her dad, Will Botfield, trained Saddlebred horses at the barn in Burbank where we kept my horse. She came out to ride now and then. Nice lady and a good rider too. IIRC, she also had a sister? It's been a while...

She did well in the mini and was quite pleasant on set, for what I saw. She played Mattie Quimper and ran a ferry (Quimper's Ferry) on (I suppose) the Brazos River. Her son in the film was played well as a disgusting character by Anthony Michael Hall. We were eight towns and a cave interior in the film.

How was the cave interior done?
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Re: James A. Michener's Texas (1995)

Postby RLC-GTT on Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:12 am

The exterior of the cave was filmed on Sycamore Creek on Bill Moody's Ranch or on a ranch up on the lower Devils River above Del Rio (not sure which, but I think Moody's). You see Benjamin Brat and Chelsea Field making entrances and exits there, probably all shot on one day. The company built the interior of the cave (their make-shift home) in our make-shift soundstage at Alamo Village (MelRoy Building -- the second two-story across from the Cantina where our current hotel lobby set is). It was all blown and molded Styrofoam with wild walls and only the suggestion of a top, open for lighting instruments. Set decorator Carla Curry (The Alamo '04) took it from there and dressed it with props from our prop room and other places around the village. Very believable when you walked in. Wouldn't have minded living there myself -- with or without Chelsea. :lol:
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Re: James A. Michener's Texas (1995)

Postby K Hale on Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:18 am

RLC-GTT wrote:The exterior of the cave was filmed on Sycamore Creek on Bill Moody's Ranch or on a ranch up on the lower Devils River above Del Rio (not sure which, but I think Moody's). You see Benjamin Brat and Chelsea Field making entrances and exits there, probably all shot on one day. The company built the interior of the cave (their make-shift home) in our make-shift soundstage at Alamo Village (MelRoy Building -- the second two-story across from the Cantina where our current hotel lobby set is). It was all blown and molded Styrofoam with wild walls and only the suggestion of a top, open for lighting instruments. Set decorator Carla Curry (The Alamo '04) took it from there and dressed it with props from our prop room and other places around the village. Very believable when you walked in. Wouldn't have minded living there myself -- with or without Chelsea. :lol:

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Re: James A. Michener's Texas (1995)

Postby NefariousNed on Sat Sep 21, 2013 5:37 am

Jeff Bearden said today that he was in "Texas" as part of Sam Houston's cavalry at San Jacinto. He even doubled for Stacy Keach as Houston in one mounted scene. Guess we'll have to go back and see if we can pick him out.
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Re: James A. Michener's Texas (1995)

Postby AlamoAaron on Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:18 am

This movie is filled with great and mediocre performances. Patrick Duffy as Austin is superb. Stacy Keach was the best Houston since Richard Dix in Man of Conquest. David Keith as Bowie was brutal but good--despite the hair--and Grant Show as Travis and John Schneider as Crockett were just plain dull. Just my opinion.
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Re: James A. Michener's Texas (1995)

Postby NefariousNed on Sun Jan 17, 2016 4:23 am

AlamoAaron wrote:This movie is filled with great and mediocre performances. Patrick Duffy as Austin is superb. Stacy Keach was the best Houston since Richard Dix in Man of Conquest. David Keith as Bowie was brutal but good--despite the hair--and Grant Show as Travis and John Schneider as Crockett were just plain dull. Just my opinion.


I agree, Duffy was a good Austin. It was about time the "Father Of Texas" got prominently featured in a film.
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Re: James A. Michener's Texas (1995)

Postby RLC-GTT on Sun Jan 17, 2016 8:33 am

NefariousNed wrote:
AlamoAaron wrote:This movie is filled with great and mediocre performances. Patrick Duffy as Austin is superb. Stacy Keach was the best Houston since Richard Dix in Man of Conquest. David Keith as Bowie was brutal but good--despite the hair--and Grant Show as Travis and John Schneider as Crockett were just plain dull. Just my opinion.


I agree, Duffy was a good Austin. It was about time the "Father Of Texas" got prominently featured in a film.

And, believe it or not, Duffy is 6'4" tall! I thought he did great, but I see Austin very differently. Stacy was a good Houston -- and a super nice guy. (As was Duffy). Bowie, Crockett and Travis were completely miscast -- although John Schneider was lots of fun to have around and did the part well. Alas, there's always one, and that was Anthony Michael Hall. He seemed to have gotten on everybody's nerves. So much so that, when Stacy Keach slapped him for the scene, he really slapped him hard -- and about two lines before he was supposed to. The look of surprise on Hall's face is genuine!
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Re: James A. Michener's Texas (1995)

Postby AlamoAaron on Mon Jan 18, 2016 8:14 pm

RLC-GTT wrote:And, believe it or not, Duffy is 6'4" tall! I thought he did great, but I see Austin very differently. Stacy was a good Houston -- and a super nice guy. (As was Duffy). Bowie, Crockett and Travis were completely miscast -- although John Schneider was lots of fun to have around and did the part well. Alas, there's always one, and that was Anthony Michael Hall. He seemed to have gotten on everybody's nerves. So much so that, when Stacy Keach slapped him for the scene, he really slapped him hard -- and about two lines before he was supposed to. The look of surprise on Hall's face is genuine!

Wow, wait a minute. If Duffy is 6-4, and Larry Hagman (J r Ewing) on Dallas was taller than him--Hagman must have been a tall fellow himself!
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Re: James A. Michener's Texas (1995)

Postby RLC-GTT on Tue Jan 19, 2016 3:45 am

More than likely, they used the old Hollywood technique of putting Hagman on an applebox for his 2-shots with Patrick. There IS NO height in movies. It is created with appleboxes and the camera angle. ;)
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Re: James A. Michener's Texas (1995)

Postby cc nolen on Tue Jan 19, 2016 3:51 pm

I will bring you a box to Bexar in March :o or you might have your own as seen here. :lol:
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Postby RLC-GTT on Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:27 am

Actually, Chris only comes up to my shoulder. 8-)
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Postby cc nolen on Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:19 pm

RLC-GTT wrote:Actually, Chris only comes up to my shoulder. 8-)

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:o :o :o LOL! Now I need help getting up from the floor LOL!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I carry a bucket with me all the time! :shock:
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Re: James A. Michener's Texas (1995)

Postby RLC-GTT on Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:37 pm

cc nolen wrote:I carry a bucket with me all the time! :shock:

Nah, Chris. You've got a lot of years left in you. :lol:
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Re: James A. Michener's Texas (1995)

Postby TexianAtHeartII on Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:35 am

RLC-GTT wrote:
NefariousNed wrote:
AlamoAaron wrote:This movie is filled with great and mediocre performances. Patrick Duffy as Austin is superb. Stacy Keach was the best Houston since Richard Dix in Man of Conquest. David Keith as Bowie was brutal but good--despite the hair--and Grant Show as Travis and John Schneider as Crockett were just plain dull. Just my opinion.


I agree, Duffy was a good Austin. It was about time the "Father Of Texas" got prominently featured in a film.

And, believe it or not, Duffy is 6'4" tall! I thought he did great, but I see Austin very differently. Stacy was a good Houston -- and a super nice guy. (As was Duffy). Bowie, Crockett and Travis were completely miscast -- although John Schneider was lots of fun to have around and did the part well. Alas, there's always one, and that was Anthony Michael Hall. He seemed to have gotten on everybody's nerves. So much so that, when Stacy Keach slapped him for the scene, he really slapped him hard -- and about two lines before he was supposed to. The look of surprise on Hall's face is genuine!


Rich, I went on IMDb and looked Patrick Duffy up and he's listed at 6'2", only a 2 inch difference, but still taller than I thought he was. Larry Hagman listed at 6'1". Definitely taller than I thought. Though he was only about 5'8".
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Postby AlamoAaron on Sat Jan 23, 2016 4:41 am

NefariousNed wrote:Image
Bowie is helped across the line by Crockett and Travis. (Notice how the PRICE OF FREEDOM statues are still in the church
niches? When did they come down, Rich?)


Though they all look terrible, I love this scene of defiance for the cause of liberty.
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Re: James A. Michener's Texas (1995)

Postby Pudman on Sat Jan 23, 2016 6:40 pm

I was at the site within a few days of filming. Charred wood in the compound from pyres. Holes outside the palisade from cannonade. No statues.
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Re: James A. Michener's Texas (1995)

Postby RLC-GTT on Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:56 pm

Those statues were put in the niches for Texas. Their set decoration. But they probably got them from the same place that POF got theirs -- and, of course, both were much too small. It took a Michael Corenblith to correct that. ;)
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Re: James A. Michener's Texas

Postby Penny on Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:41 am

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I did asst hair and makeup in this movie, so I worked almost every day on it and got close to many people who I am still in touch with. As an Asst makeup artist, I didn't touch the principles unless it was to dab the sweat from them now and then. I did the extras. Several days I did around 150 extras, making them look dirty like they had fought a battle, and also putting sideburns and mustaches on the guys. Perhaps I worked on a few of you. Doing that many extras I didn't have time to look at who I was working on, it was just "get them ready and go to the next guy".

I do have to stop here and tell a little story about Kevin Young. (Kevin if you can hear me, you'll have to forgive me)
We were filming the Battle of San Jacinto. See that pallet under the tree where Stacey is laying? Well, Richard (the director) was set up under that tree where it was a bit cooler. I was sitting right behind him because I was on set makeup girl that day. John Schneider was sitting on a box right next to me. Kevin was laying down on that pallet, and just about the time Richard Lang said. "ACTION" Kevin began snoring, LOUDLY... John and I started to laugh, but as quietly as we could, and then Richard Lang turns around and gives us this puzzled look and mouths, "What the Hell?" Then he goes back to work. As soon as the scene is finished and Richard yells "CUT" it wakes Kevin up and I say. "Kevin if this scene isn't historically correct I'm telling all your Alamo friends on you" AND I GUESS NOW I HAVE... (grin)
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Re: James A. Michener's Texas (1995)

Postby Penny on Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:00 am

NefariousNed wrote:
K Hale wrote:
Seguin wrote: but the Bowie character was´nt too bad. He was pretty much as most people see him (rightly,
or wrongly), a man´s man who ain´t afraid of a knife fight.

Then they ought to have made him look like that, instead of a cross between Jack Black and a serial killer. ;)

You're right in that respect, Kristi. It makes you wonder why they went through all the trouble of giving David Keith that stupid
wig to wear as Jim Bowie. I have never seen a painting of Bowie where he appears like that, so it's a good bet that the set
hairdressers for TEXAS did not either. Now, if they had just depicted Keith as Bowie looking something like this with modest
sidewhiskers, that would've been just fine.


I can answer this one. We took our orders straight from Richard Lang. He told us what he wanted for each character. Head hairdresser was Mariaje. She was French. She taught me to set David, and Stacey and Johns wigs each night. Rick actually fought to have his short hair throughout the movie. In fact, in front of the Hacienda, they open with his dad giving him a haircut with a bowl on top of his head. I was taking pictures before they started filming and he said. "Penny don't take pictures of me like this with a bowl on my head!" And he was laughing, and I said back. "Sorry Rick, millions are going to see you like this in the movie, so what does it matter?" hehe... I'll see if I can find those and post them.

If anyone has any questions about this film, I was on set almost the whole time, so I can answer a lot of things... And my ex-husband was Special props builder. He built and scenic the cave interior and exterior and made the maps, flags, the faux front of the Hacienda. Just him and another guy named Jim. Both were very talented.

This was the movie where Randy Travis ask me to write for his publishing company... So it was a good shoot for me all the way around!
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Re: James A. Michener's Texas (1995)

Postby Penny on Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:11 am

TexianAtHeartII wrote:
RLC-GTT wrote:[quote="

I agree, Duffy was a good Austin. It was about time the "Father Of Texas" got prominently featured in a film.

And, believe it or not, Duffy is 6'4" tall! I thought he did great, but I see Austin very differently. Stacy was a good Houston -- and a super nice guy. (As was Duffy). Bowie, Crockett and Travis were completely miscast -- although John Schneider was lots of fun to have around and did the part well. Alas, there's always one, and that was Anthony Michael Hall. He seemed to have gotten on everybody's nerves. So much so that, when Stacy Keach slapped him for the scene, he really slapped him hard -- and about two lines before he was supposed to. The look of surprise on Hall's face is genuine!


Rich, I went on IMDb and looked Patrick Duffy up and he's listed at 6'2", only a 2 inch difference, but still taller than I thought he was. Larry Hagman listed at 6'1". Definitely taller than I thought. Though he was only about 5'8".[/quote]

I don't think Patrick was that tall, he didn't seem all that tall to me at least. But anyway, on to Micheal. YES, OH MY GOODNESS that was such a funny day. Most of the time I sat behind Richard Lang in case he needed me, so this day they do the scene, and Stacey says,"I think I can do it better can we do it again?" And Richard said, "ok if you want to" And then Stacey says again. "Let's try that one more time I almost got it" And he does the scene with Mike again, and each time he is really slapping him and HARD, after the last take Stacey walks up to Richard and said. "I don't know about you, but I really enjoyed that!" And we all started laughing... Later Mike was saying. "He was really hitting me" and his face was beet red"...

I've got lots of stories about this movie. Most of them I can tell if anyone wants to hear...
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Re: James A. Michener's Texas (1995)

Postby cc nolen on Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:27 pm

Is it true that Rich Curilla can hurl a snowball across the Alamo Compound? :roll:
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Re: James A. Michener's Texas (1995)

Postby Penny on Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:15 pm

cc nolen wrote:Is it true that Rich Curilla can hurl a snowball across the Alamo Compound? :roll:
I don't know about that, but I have seen him handle a few 8 pounders... (smile)
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Re: James A. Michener's Texas (1995)

Postby RLC-GTT on Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:42 pm

So, BEWARE, Chris. History CAN repeat itself. :D
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