EVOLUTION OF THE BOWIE KNIFE

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Postby cc nolen on Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:32 pm

Warren:
From the shape of the existing blade and handle - also the position of the pins
My guess would be the knife was made by James Black of Washington Arkansas.
Of course James Black also made knives for James and Rezin Bowie and most
likely John Bowie as well because John was married to James Blacks assistant's
daughter. This knife is part of Texas History but we still cant put James
Bowie as its owner. Please remember that Washington AR. was a stop over for
many a family headed to Texas and a new life.
Hope this sheds a little light on the subject. The piece is priceless!
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Postby cc nolen on Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:33 pm

Another James Black Knife...check out those pin positions - :o ......enjoy.
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Re: EVOLUTION OF THE BOWIE KNIFE

Postby warren on Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:48 pm

Wow! Just wow! Great detective work, Chris. I figured the answer would be "not enough to go on", but you are right about those
pins. Thanks - real thought provoking.

We'll never know, but since it was found in what was presumed to be Urrea's camp, possibly it was obtained from the massacre at
Goliad, if de la Portilla had joined up with Urrea at the time.
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Postby cc nolen on Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:11 pm

Lot of speculation on all this. The one big thing is, the runners on the line of communications for Santa Anna. Of course he had men
going back and forth all over the area, and of course Santa Anna's force took the Alamo.....and who was in the Alamo - James Bowie.
Sure could have happened, but will we ever know? could be!!! Just think, we didnt know we was going to find a James Black knife a
180 years after the Siege, but they did. :D
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Postby cc nolen on Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:13 pm

Bowie # 1 - Larger knife, different pin locations. :?:
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Re: EVOLUTION OF THE BOWIE KNIFE

Postby warren on Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:34 pm

You have pretty well convinced me it is a James Black knife. Are there any guesses on how many he made?
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Re: EVOLUTION OF THE BOWIE KNIFE

Postby cc nolen on Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:46 pm

James Black was a young man when his knife making career came to a sudden halt. His partner and Father
in Law beat him almost to death. He was so injured he could not work in his shop ever again. He was
cared for by his friend J. Buzzard. Toward the end of James Black's life he was asked to try and forge one
last knife. He tried, but he could not even remember the starting process.
Therefore, I dont believe he made more than 50 to 80 knives. Maybe more - but I doubt it.
One last thing....James Black was a Silversmith, he used silver pins in the known coffin handled guardless
knives we know he made. The knife from the Sea of Mud uses brass.
Hmmmm? makes one wonder. :roll:
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Postby cc nolen on Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:16 pm

James Black is the nice looking young man on the right
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Re: EVOLUTION OF THE BOWIE KNIFE

Postby warren on Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:22 pm

Great knife pictures in that dag or ambro. Looks like the guy to the left is holding a J. Burns or Swinburn
over and under rotating pistol. Hard to tell. I've always looked at old photos to see if I can determine
make and model of the guns; now I'm going to have to look at knives!

Brass pins vs. silver pins, yet identical coffin handle styles and pin placement. As always, more research.
I guess that is why we are here.
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Re: EVOLUTION OF THE BOWIE KNIFE

Postby Seguin on Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:43 pm

cc nolen wrote:James Black is the nice looking young man on the right


Can we say with 100% certainty it´s James Black?
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Re: EVOLUTION OF THE BOWIE KNIFE

Postby cc nolen on Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:59 pm

Hans, I learned about 40 years ago that nothing (yet) is 100 % with James Bowie. Some of his script that he signed I would give a 99.9% but the highest I would give any weapon, especially a knife is around 85%.
On a photograph....well, I just dont know.
BUT; Joe Musso has told me it is correct and I have very little reason to ever doubt him when it comes to James Bowie.
And the investigation continues!!! ~ Agatha Christi has nothing on the mystery of Bowie. :lol:
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Postby cc nolen on Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:23 pm

Since we are on a roll about Bowie, and his knives - I have some rather new information to add. *Hans, You may want to sit down for this,
being Seguin. ;) Anyway, many of the Forum Members are familiar with the Juan Seguin Knife. Legend says Seguin left the Alamo on Jim
Bowie's horse and Jim had put one of his knives in the saddlebag for protection. The knife survived the War, and was handed down from
Texas Family, to Family. Then it was put on display at the Texas Ranger Museum in Waco Texas. The big knife had a silver solder plate
on the spine that stated it was made by Searles of Baton Rouge. Daniel Searles is belived to have made knives for the Bowie Family.
From tests on the silver it could only be dated to the 1860s at best. * 24 years after the Alamo. The knife was considered a fake by many.
---> The last Expert Holdout was James Batson. He believed the handle, and silver solder were put there later to enhance the knife to look
more like it belonged to Bowie. We had lunch together, along with Jack Edmondson a few years ago in Natchez MS. and discussed this
very subject.
*** Now Mr Batson has come forward saying the knife was a "total fake". > Maybe even made in the 20th Century.
So it seems we discover something great in this never ending mystery - but we also find we were wrong about certain things as well.* I
had a great replica of the Seguin Knife made, because I gave most every knife the benefit of the doubt when I did the - Bowie Knife,
Fact-Myth-Legend display. Sad to hear its a complete fake. :(
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Postby cc nolen on Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:25 pm

The real - not real...Seguin Knife.
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Postby cc nolen on Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:26 pm

Close-up...
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Postby cc nolen on Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:27 pm

And the Infamous Silver Name Plate!
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Postby cc nolen on Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:33 pm

The thing that gave this FAKE away is - if you look real close at the silver on the spine of
the knife you will notice that the solder ran into the already pitted blade :shock: ....
This means the blade was already antiqued or old when the Searles Silver Plate was installed. ;)
Note: It is still in the display but I might take it out...even though its quite a story.
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Re: EVOLUTION OF THE BOWIE KNIFE

Postby NefariousNed on Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:26 pm

cc nolen wrote:The thing that gave this FAKE away is - if you look real close at the silver on the spine of
the knife you will notice that the solder ran into the already pitted blade :shock: ....
This means the blade was already antiqued or old when the Searles Silver Plate was installed... ;)

Chris...


Well, this is already kind of general knowledge that the silver was added to the blade about 20 years later
in hopes of bolstering it's tie to Seguin. Could still be an old knife, just messed with. What else have you
got that discredits it?
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Re: EVOLUTION OF THE BOWIE KNIFE

Postby Seguin on Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:48 am

cc nolen wrote:Since we are on a roll about Bowie, and his knives - I have some rather new information to add. *Hans, You may want to sit down for this,
being Seguin. ;) Anyway, many of the Forum Members are familiar with the Juan Seguin Knife. Legend says Seguin left the Alamo on Jim
Bowie's horse and Jim had put one of his knives in the saddlebag for protection. The knife survived the War, and was handed down from
Texas Family, to Family. Then it was put on display at the Texas Ranger Museum in Waco Texas. The big knife had a silver solder plate
on the spine that stated it was made by Searles of Baton Rouge. Daniel Searles is belived to have made knives for the Bowie Family.
From tests on the silver it could only be dated to the 1860s at best. * 24 years after the Alamo. The knife was considered a fake by many.
The last Expert Holdout was James Batson. He believed the handle, and silver solder were put there later to enhance the knife to look
more like it belonged to Bowie. We had lunch together, along with Jack Edmondson a few years ago in Natchez MS. and discussed this
very subject.
Now Mr Batson has come forward saying the knife was a total fake. Maybe even made in the 20th Century.
So it seems we discover something great in this never ending mystery - but we also find we were wrong about certain things as well.* I
had a great replica of the Seguin Knife made, because I gave most every knife the benefit of the doubt when I did the - Bowie Knife,
Fact-Myth-Legend display. Sad to hear its a complete fake. :(


That´s old news we´ve talked about before here in the forum. If I remember correctly, there´s a chance the blade is old. I seem to
remember it was tested and proved to be old. The guard could be old too, taken from an old sword and put on the knife. The silver
solder is new. The fake part is the Seguin engraving. The knife may not have belonged to Seguin, but the blade is still old and maybe
the guard too. So, you could argue it´s an old knife apart from the silver solder, it just may not have belonged to Seguin as the
engraving says.
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Postby cc nolen on Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:56 pm

I wont scold you two Historians too bad.............but take some time and read again. Dr James Batson the highest authority on steel and its source has NOW - which means over the last few months- has came forth with a statement saying the ENTIRE knife (BLADE and ALL) are NOT OLD at all.
I know we have discussed this before about the handle and the engraving............and before, the blade was still considered OLD and of the 1820 - 30 era!!
NOW it is not!!!!!!!
Thanks....at least I know someone is trying to read these posts. :lol:
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Re: EVOLUTION OF THE BOWIE KNIFE

Postby warren on Fri Oct 13, 2017 4:22 pm

This is a great education! Now a question.

That daguerreotype of James Black. Dags appeared in the US only in the middle of 1839. James Black was born in 1800. So he would have to be a minimum of 39 years old in that picture, and that's assuming he was one of the first to have his picture taken with the new process, in a remote part of the country (the earliest know dag in Texas is of course of the Alamo, thought to date about 1849). Arkansas had its first photographer in 1842. Black, in 1839, been severely beaten by his father-in-law and supposedly wound up with badly damaged eyes , made even worse by the medical attention he sought. But in the photograph, It looks like a relatively young man, without any apparent injuries. So is this really James Black? I wonder what the provenance is.
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Re: EVOLUTION OF THE BOWIE KNIFE

Postby NefariousNed on Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:41 pm

Good one, warren!

Chris, it is not enough that an expert comes up with a statement that something is a complete fake. We need to know how and why he determined it as such.
Why wasn't it determined as such 30 years ago? Were all the knife experts at that time not so expert, after all, or was it so good of a fake that it fooled even
them?
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Re: EVOLUTION OF THE BOWIE KNIFE

Postby Seguin on Sat Oct 14, 2017 3:36 am

I wont scold you two Historians too bad...


Good! I won´t scold you too bad either for not telling us how the knife was tested. :D Is there anything wrong in wanting to know more before we accept the new findings?
I´ve never taken anybody´s word as gospel before having known all the details and I´m not about to start now. I would like to know the details. Did your expert get to have the knife from the current owner to have it tested? Was the blade tested by a metallurgic expert? And how was it done and by whom? And what did the test say as to how old the blade is? What´s the blade made of? That sort of details. Nothing wrong in asking questions and wanting to know more, I hope. Right now we only have your word and you only have your expert´s word. Did he show you the test results and tell you how they were conducted and by whom?

If some expert tells you he´s got a Bowie knife who no doubt belonged to Bowie you would´nt accept it without getting to know all the details first, would you? I sure would´nt.
Now we´re being told not even the blade is old, not that it´s a big deal if the blade is old since we already knew the knife probably never belonged to Seguin and that the silver solder is new and the engravings too. At best the knife is a bastard with only the blade being old and with the rest being new and the Seguin connection probably being a lie. Now we hear the blade may not even be old, but so what? it does´nt make much of a difference when we already suspected everything else was probably faked. It´s not like it´s a big disappointment to find out the blade might not even be old, which we had originally been lead to believe it was.
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Re: EVOLUTION OF THE BOWIE KNIFE

Postby Seguin on Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:22 am

warren wrote:This is a great education! Now a question.

That daguerreotype of James Black. Dags appeared in the US only in the middle of 1839. James Black was born in 1800. So he would have to be a minimum of 39 years old in that picture, and that's assuming he was one of the first to have his picture taken with the new process, in a remote part of the country (the earliest know dag in Texas is of course of the Alamo, thought to date about 1849). Arkansas had its first photographer in 1842. Black, in 1839, been severely beaten by his father-in-law and supposedly wound up with badly damaged eyes , made even worse by the medical attention he sought. But in the photograph, It looks like a relatively young man, without any apparent injuries. So is this really James Black? I wonder what the provenance is.


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Re: EVOLUTION OF THE BOWIE KNIFE

Postby SantaClaus on Sat Oct 14, 2017 12:37 pm

cc nolen wrote:James Black is the nice looking young man on the right

I did some research and learned that the man on the left is John White. So, you could say that this image of two men holding knives is a Black & White photograph. And instead of a daguerreotype, call it a "dagger-o-type". Or you could say that I'm making all this up just to get a laugh :lol: or a chuckle :D or maybe a smile :) .
Nothing, eh? :|
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Re: EVOLUTION OF THE BOWIE KNIFE

Postby John W Smith on Sat Oct 14, 2017 12:38 pm

The following quote is from an article I wrote about twenty years ago for BLADE magazine discussing the origin of guardless coffin-pommeled Bowie knives.

An 1840's vintage daguerrotype, passed down through the Buzzard family, reportedly depicts James Black and Jacob Buzzard. Black's detractors have argued whether the youthful figure on the right really could be a 40-year-old blind man. Some skeptics, in their overzealousness, have even disputed whether the photograph really is a daguerreotype, or a later vintage ambrotype printed on glass. The picture, absolutely a copper-plated daguerrotype, is displayed at the Arkansas Territorial Restoration (now the Historic Arkansas Museum) in Little Rock.

Ultimately whether it depicts James Black--or both of the Buzzard brothers--or other family members--is an issue of secondary importance. The true significance of the picture is that both of these southwestern Arkansas figures from the 1840's hold guardless, coffin-pommeled Bowie knives. Those two knives might have originated in Cincinnati or New York or Sheffield, but it seems more logical that they came from Black's forge at nearby Washington, Arkansas.
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Re: EVOLUTION OF THE BOWIE KNIFE

Postby warren on Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:38 pm

Very interesting and thanks for that information! I knew I wasn't the only one who wondered about the age. If you have seen that dag yourself, can I ask this question? Undoubtedly they are coffin handle Bowie knifes and I agree that it is more than likely they are from Arkansas. I notice that one knife is larger than the other, and it appears the pin placement in the handles are different. Understandable. But those pins really jump out in that photo. Is it possible they are retouched with either silver or gold? I only ask because I have a number of dags of the Civil War era where buttons and epaulets on the uniforms were retouched, usually with gold paint. All at the time, I would assume. Thanks again!
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Re: EVOLUTION OF THE BOWIE KNIFE

Postby Buckshot on Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:49 pm

John W Smith wrote:The following quote is from an article I wrote about twenty years ago for BLADE magazine discussing the origin of guardless coffin-pommeled Bowie knives.
An 1840's vintage daguerrotype, passed down through the Buzzard family, reportedly depicts James Black and Jacob Buzzard. Black's detractors have argued whether the youthful figure on the right really could be a 40-year-old blind man. Some skeptics, in their overzealousness, have even disputed whether the photograph really is a daguerreotype, or a later vintage ambrotype printed on glass. The picture, absolutely a copper-plated daguerrotype, is displayed at the Arkansas Territorial Restoration (now the Historic Arkansas Museum) in Little Rock.

Ultimately whether it depicts James Black--or both of the Buzzard brothers--or other family members--is an issue of secondary importance. The true significance of the picture is that both of these southwestern Arkansas figures from the 1840's hold guardless, coffin-pommeled Bowie knives. Those two knives might have originated in Cincinnati or New York or Sheffield, but it seems more logical that they came from Black's forge at nearby Washington, Arkansas.


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Re: EVOLUTION OF THE BOWIE KNIFE

Postby cc nolen on Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:17 pm

Wow! I go to Hunting Camp for 3 days and things get to hopping!
I guess there is more than one way to wake up a thread on the Forum - :lol:
First of all. every major Knife Expert that I know of has already deemed the so called Seguin Knife a TOTAL Fake. Dr James Batson was the only person I know of other than myself that held on to some hope that the blade was of the early 1800s. The handle and guard, plus the name plate on the spine have already been seen as fake from Joe Musso to Mark Zalesky. The engraving has even been ruled as NOT Daniel Searles' of Baton Rouge.
Please remember; there are not a huge number of KNIFE EXPERTS sitting on some big board room table somewhere. It takes many years to get the ones we do have together on something. Once I heard Dr Batson now believes the entire knife in a phony I have to go along with him due to his background as a NASA Scientist, Bladesmith, and Steel Expert.
Hans....My point is; You said this was old news. You must know something I dont....but its NEW news to me. In the Knife world Dr Batson is at the TOP of the few Experts we have. He has studied the knife for years and even used it as a photo on the cover of one of his books. He had strong feelings for the knife.
Another problem is; the owner will not bring the knife forward for anymore tests. It is locked up for now. When Jack and I had lunch with Dr Batson he mentioned some sort of forged steel from South America the knife could have been made from...I assume he has discovered it was not. I will try to contact him and find out more.
As far as Warren's question, I think Jack answered it. The question about the pins is anybody's guess. The pins could have been shining due to light in the setting or maybe enhanced after the photo was processed. Again: I will contact Musso for his answer to the questions. Thanks for the questions...Keep um coming!
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Re: EVOLUTION OF THE BOWIE KNIFE

Postby cc nolen on Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:25 pm

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I wont scold you two Historians too bad...


Good! I won´t scold you too bad either for not telling us how the knife was tested. :D Is there anything wrong in wanting to know more before we accept the new findings?
I´ve never taken anybody´s word as gospel before having known all the details and I´m not about to start now. I would like to know the details. Did your expert get to have the knife from the current owner to have it tested? Was the blade tested by a metallurgic expert? And how was it done and by whom? And what did the test say as to how old the blade is? What´s the blade made of? That sort of details. Nothing wrong in asking questions and wanting to know more, I hope. Right now we only have your word and you only have your expert´s word. Did he show you the test results and tell you how they were conducted and by whom?

If some expert tells you he´s got a Bowie knife who no doubt belonged to Bowie you would´nt accept it without getting to know all the details first, would you? I sure would´nt.
Now we´re being told not even the blade is old, not that it´s a big deal if the blade is old since we already knew the knife probably never belonged to Seguin and that the silver solder is new and the engravings too. At best the knife is a bastard with only the blade being old and with the rest being new and the Seguin connection probably being a lie. Now we hear the blade may not even be old, but so what? it does´nt make much of a difference when we already suspected everything else was probably faked. It´s not like it´s a big disappointment to find out the blade might not even be old, which we had originally been lead to believe it was.

You accepted the Seguin Knife with out all the details. :roll:
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Postby cc nolen on Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:32 pm

I have to wonder where the Metal Tests were on this knife....When an Expert like Musso said it was from the 1830s it was accepted.
Just an example....CN
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Postby Seguin on Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:23 am

Hans....My point is; You said this was old news. You must know something I dont....but its NEW news to me.


The blade not being old is news, the rest is old news. We have know for a long time the knife was a fake, except that the blade could be old. Now we know not even the blade is old.
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Re: EVOLUTION OF THE BOWIE KNIFE

Postby Seguin on Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:27 am

cc nolen wrote:
Seguin wrote:
I wont scold you two Historians too bad...


Good! I won´t scold you too bad either for not telling us how the knife was tested. :D Is there anything wrong in wanting to know more before we accept the new findings?
I´ve never taken anybody´s word as gospel before having known all the details and I´m not about to start now. I would like to know the details. Did your expert get to have the knife from the current owner to have it tested? Was the blade tested by a metallurgic expert? And how was it done and by whom? And what did the test say as to how old the blade is? What´s the blade made of? That sort of details. Nothing wrong in asking questions and wanting to know more, I hope. Right now we only have your word and you only have your expert´s word. Did he show you the test results and tell you how they were conducted and by whom?

If some expert tells you he´s got a Bowie knife who no doubt belonged to Bowie you would´nt accept it without getting to know all the details first, would you? I sure would´nt.
Now we´re being told not even the blade is old, not that it´s a big deal if the blade is old since we already knew the knife probably never belonged to Seguin and that the silver solder is new and the engravings too. At best the knife is a bastard with only the blade being old and with the rest being new and the Seguin connection probably being a lie. Now we hear the blade may not even be old, but so what? it does´nt make much of a difference when we already suspected everything else was probably faked. It´s not like it´s a big disappointment to find out the blade might not even be old, which we had originally been lead to believe it was.

You accepted the Seguin Knife with out all the details. :roll:


Before we learned it was a fake? We were all told years ago that it was Seguin's knife and accepted it including Texas historians like Jack Jackson. Why wouldn't we? This was before it was called to question. It is not the job of the average person to research each and every claim. Even you believed it - -until told otherwise by the EXPERTS. ;)
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Postby cc nolen on Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:26 pm

Not that it really matters, but in your post you stated that if someone said they found a or the Bowie Knife No one would accept it to be true. But, we have done it for years. The Seguin Knife has had no kind of metal tests run on it, just the silver solder on the spine was tested.
There are no metal tests on the Bowie # 1, the Searles Fowler, the Schively Perkins, the San Jacinto, the Candaleria, the Bart Moore, the Forrest, the Huber Steel, and the list goes on forever. We still consider them Bowie Knives possibly belonging to the Bowie Family.
We have to depend on Experts to direct us to what is real and what is not. Please feel free to google Dr James Batson. Check him out. Even Joe Musso holds him in the highest respect.
Thus my statement that the knife is a total fake....I stand by it.
Thanks for the discussion. It is good to know we can disagree on some things with out going for each others throat. ;)
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Postby Seguin on Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:39 am

cc nolen wrote:Not that it really matters, but in your post you stated that if someone said they found a or the Bowie Knife No one would accept it to be true. But, we have done it for years. The Seguin Knife has had no kind of metal tests run on it, just the silver solder on the spine was tested.
There are no metal tests on the Bowie # 1, the Searles Fowler, the Schively Perkins, the San Jacinto, the Candaleria, the Bart Moore, the Forrest, the Huber Steel, and the list goes on forever. We still consider them Bowie Knives possibly belonging to the Bowie Family.
We have to depend on Experts to direct us to what is real and what is not. Please feel free to google Dr James Batson. Check him out. Even Joe Musso holds him in the highest respect.
Thus my statement that the knife is a total fake....I stand by it.
Thanks for the discussion. It is good to know we can disagree on some things with out going for each others throat. ;)
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No, I said, "If some expert tells you he´s got a Bowie knife who no doubt belonged to Bowie you would´nt accept it without getting to know all the details first, would you? I sure would´nt."

In the Knife world Dr Batson is at the TOP of the few Experts we have. He has studied the knife for years and even used it as a photo on the cover of one of his books. He had strong feelings for the knife.
Another problem is; the owner will not bring the knife forward for anymore tests. It is locked up for now. When Jack and I had lunch with Dr Batson he mentioned some sort of forged steel from South America the knife could have been made from...I assume he has discovered it was not. I will try to contact him and find out more.


So, Batson have´nt had the blade tested, right? That means we still don´t know for sure if the blade is old or new, right? Of course, if everything else is new, chances are the blade is new too, but we just don´t know since the owner won´t have the knife tested anymore.

Thanks for the discussion. It is good to know we can disagree on some things with out going for each others throat. ;)


Likewise! I would never go for your throat. Your balls, maybe (with a Bowie knife), but not your throat. :D
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Postby cc nolen on Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:50 pm

Damn Hans, I didnt know you was that way - :shock: ....When I come to Denmark, I'll bring a protector cup! :lol:
And, My trusty Body Guard - :o :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Seguin on Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:04 am

cc nolen wrote:Damn Hans, I didnt know you was that way - :shock: ....When I come to Denmark, I'll bring a protector cup! :lol:
And, My trusty Body Guard - :o :lol: :lol: :lol:


If you choose this nice suit which have a protector cup you´ll be on the safe side...
unless I bring a can opener. :D
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Postby cc nolen on Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:30 pm

I will have to bring out the Go Blue Force for that! He needs no weapons! My problem is, when John W Smith is around, he is busy keeping
him out of harms way! :lol: :lol: The Street will be busy in front of Ernie's this March!!! :o
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Postby Seguin on Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:21 am

cc nolen wrote:I will have to bring out the Go Blue Force for that! He needs no weapons! My problem is, when John W Smith is around, he is busy keeping
him out of harms way! :lol: :lol: The Street will be busy in front of Ernie's this March!!! :o


You need help from Go Blue and John Dubya and their Bowie knives to deal with little innocent me and my can opener? :roll: You just tell them my can opener works on Bowie knives too, because it says so on the warranty! :D
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Postby cc nolen on Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:59 pm

NO! Not the dreaded Can Opener! :o
Hans, you dont play fair at all! You know a Bowie Knife is No match for the blood curdling Danish Can Opener! :lol:
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