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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOWIE KNIFE?

Postby K Hale on Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:26 am

cc nolen wrote:More Bowie Knives from my collection.....this is a version of the Bart Moore Bowie done in Damascus....by the late Robert Blasingame......enjoy :D

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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOWIE KNIFE?

Postby Seguin on Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:54 am

cc nolen wrote:More Bowie Knives from my collection.....this is a version of the Bart Moore Bowie done in Damascus....by the late Robert Blasingame......enjoy :D


That´s a beautiful blade pattern! I´ve never seen it before. It sure stands out. Bart Moore going zebra. :D
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOWIE KNIFE?

Postby cc nolen on Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:09 pm

I think he made the blade from a chain saw chain.....it is a wicked sight
Here is my Iron Mistress made by Blasingame....enjoy
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOWIE KNIFE?

Postby Fred on Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:39 pm

Wow, a chainsaw blade! Cool!
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOWIE KNIFE?

Postby Seguin on Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:49 am

Nice 'Mistress' you´ve got there! I think she´ll take good care of you. :D
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOWIE KNIFE?

Postby RLC-GTT on Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:06 am

cc nolen wrote:I think he made the blade from a chain saw chain....

The Bowie Chainsaw Massacre. I can see the promotion for the movie already!
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOWIE KNIFE?

Postby cc nolen on Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:11 pm

Hard to defend with a bowie knife when the bad guy has a chain saw!
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOWIE KNIFE?

Postby Seguin on Thu Jan 05, 2012 3:17 am

Very cool and modern looking Bowie knife you´ve got there!
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOWIE KNIFE?

Postby K Hale on Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:51 am

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cc nolen wrote:I think he made the blade from a chain saw chain....

The Bowie Chainsaw Massacre. I can see the promotion for the movie already!

Reminds me of the Grass Fight reenactment... lol
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOWIE KNIFE?

Postby cc nolen on Thu Jan 05, 2012 3:54 pm

Seguin wrote:Very cool and modern looking Bowie knife you´ve got there!

This was Mike Stephens version of the Musso bowie if it were made in todays time :D
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOWIE KNIFE?

Postby RLC-GTT on Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:21 pm

Sorry, I like the original version better. This one looks... too modern. :lol:
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOWIE KNIFE?

Postby cc nolen on Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:08 pm

I agree Rich....but you know how those artist are :o ....seems like everyone has a personal touch to add :lol:
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOWIE KNIFE?

Postby RLC-GTT on Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:59 am

cc nolen wrote:I agree Rich....but you know how those artist are :o ....seems like everyone has a personal touch to add :lol:

Just like Alamo movies. LOL.
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOWIE KNIFE?

Postby cc nolen on Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:54 pm

Exactly :o
Now, what happened to the bowie knife? :roll:
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOWIE KNIFE?

Postby NefariousNed on Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:36 pm

I still say that painting looks like Mike Waters.
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOWIE KNIFE?

Postby K Hale on Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:18 am

He's touching the blade. :o
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOWIE KNIFE?

Postby Seguin on Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:26 am

I still say that painting looks like Mike Waters.


Yes, Mike Waters holding the Musso Bowie.

He's touching the blade. :o


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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOWIE KNIFE?

Postby cc nolen on Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:37 pm

Well, after all it is his knife :roll: .....and even though it is sharp, you should be able to hold the blade with little pressure :o
Why dont you try that pose with your big Bowie Knife....be careful :lol:
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOWIE KNIFE?

Postby K Hale on Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:58 am

cc nolen wrote:Well, after all it is his knife :roll: .....and even though it is sharp, you should be able to hold the blade with little pressure :o
Why dont you try that pose with your big Bowie Knife....be careful :lol:
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOWIE KNIFE?

Postby cc nolen on Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:25 pm

Rules are made to be broken......maybe touch this one, sure is alot of contraversy on this piece of steel :o
Well maybe not this exact piece, but the one I copied... :lol:
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOWIE KNIFE?

Postby cc nolen on Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:15 pm

who took my knife!!!............a good painting by Wade Dillon, thanks Wade
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOWIE KNIFE?

Postby cc nolen on Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:24 pm

This is the late Mr Logan Sewell of Vidallia La. I met Mr Sewell at the Antique Knife Show in Natchez Ms. in 2008. He had one of the best collections of Bowie Knives in the world....He is holding the Stafford Bowie which was made by Daniel Searles who also made the Fowler knife on display at the alamo.
Seems like the Bowie's liked Searles made knives....not really what you think of when you talk Bowie Knives :o
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOWIE KNIFE?

Postby K Hale on Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:39 pm

Chris, is he the gentleman who was descended from the Wells family, or was that someone else?
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOWIE KNIFE?

Postby John W Smith on Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:53 pm

Logan was descended from Madison Wells, whose brother, Samuel Levi Wells, was a principle in the sandbar duel. Another brother, Thomas Jefferson Wells, was also at the sandbar as a witness to the affair of honor.

Logan and I were good friends. We did not always agree. For instance, I am very strongly inclined to believe that James Black made unmarked, silver mounted, guardless, coffin-handled knives. I also believe that Black made a knife for Rezin (it is in a museum in northwest Arkansas) and that he probably made one for James. Logan and a few others in the Antique Bowie Knife Association disputed the Black story altogether.

But the important thing was that Logan and I could agree to disagree without resorting to our own affair of honor. We could disagree and still respect each other.

Logan truly personified the chivalrous southern gentleman.
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOWIE KNIFE?

Postby Davy on Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:58 am

John W Smith wrote:Logan was descended from Madison Wells, whose brother, Samuel Levi Wells, was a principle in the sandbar duel. Another brother, Thomas Jefferson Wells, was also at the sandbar as a witness to the affair of honor.

Logan and I were good friends. We did not always agree. For instance, I am very strongly inclined to believe that James Black made unmarked, silver mounted, guardless, coffin-handled knives. I also believe that Black made a knife for Rezin (it is in a museum in northwest Arkansas) and that he probably made one for James. Logan and a few others in the Antique Bowie Knife Association disputed the Black story altogether.

But the important thing was that Logan and I could agree to disagree without resorting to our own affair of honor. We could disagree and still respect each other.

Logan truly personified the chivalrous southern gentleman.


What honor Jack .. why you have no honor sir! You know that! :o :lol:
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOWIE KNIFE?

Postby cc nolen on Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:28 pm

Jack, can you share any info about the fate of Logan Sewell's colection? I know he had some Schively Knives as well as some great antique bowies.
I wonder if Mike Worley or some of the guys at the Antique Bowie Association bought the collection.....it needs to be in a museum. IMHO...
Any news on that?
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOWIE KNIFE?

Postby John W Smith on Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:59 pm

Although I had encountered Logan at a number of events, we got to be close at a meeting of the Antique Bowie Knife Association (in conjunction with the Texas Gun Collectors) in San Antonio. Logan had set up a fabulous Bowie knife display that spanned a half dozen tables. As I was admiring it, he walked up to me and asked, "Jack, as a special favor to me, would you do one of your Jim Bowie performances here at this show?" I knew that he had seen me portray Bowie before--and said so. He acknowledged that, but said he never tired of watching the program. I agreed to do it the next day. Then, because I had not brought my Bowie costume with me, I had to go borrow some appropriate fooferaws from Dr. Winders.

I first visited Logan's residence in 1999, when I started performing at the Jim Bowie Festival in Vidalia. Along with his wonderful collection of Bowie knives there were a great many rifles, muskets, and pistols--mostly flintlock or percussion. Logan favored early 19th Century gunsmiths. He had several pistols by Daniel Searles and Rees Fitzpatrick. He acquired Rezin Bowie's massive hunting rifle (with the inlaid silver alligator) at the same auction in which Texas purchased the portrait of James Bowie. The weapons collection was embellished by a large number of paintings and prints and commemorative items. High on the wall in the center of the room was a photo of him and me standing in front of his display at the San Antonio show.

While I was in Vidalia in 1999, Linda Gardner, the lady from the Chamber of Commerce who had hired me, took me to the mayor's office and showed me a model for a new complex to be built along the riverfront. Among the new structures to be built was a convention center. Linda said it would have a room where Logan's collection would be displayed after his death.

I later asked Logan about donating his collection to the city. He told me that there was a condition. When the room in the convention center was completed, he personally wanted to have the opportunity to inspect the display cases and the security.

Over the decade in which I attended the Bowie festival and the Natchez Antique Bowie Knife Show, I saw the Vidalia Riverfront complex slowly erected. I know that they finished the convention center a few years before Logan's death. We rehearsed there a few times for our reenactment of the Sandbar Fight.

I am not sure what went wrong. As I recall, Logan told me that they had not yet installed the display cases or the necessary security measures. He died shortly after that, and Vidalia lost out on a Logan Sewell museum. And in a sense, we all lost out, because the general public would never be able to view and appreciate that magnificent collection. It was dispersed. Some of it was purchased by Logan's fellow Bowie knife collectors. Some of it went to auction. (I believe that was the fate of the Searles/Fitzpatrick Bowie.)

And that is all I can remember at the moment.
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOWIE KNIFE?

Postby Davy on Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:32 am

John W Smith wrote:Although I had encountered Logan at a number of events, we got to be close at a meeting of the Antique Bowie Knife Association...

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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOWIE KNIFE?

Postby cc nolen on Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:42 pm

Many Thanks Jack....and Davy for the photo. I have that pic from one of my blade magazines. Looks like Mr Sewell has the drop on Jack ;)
I met him at the knife show in Natchez and he took time to sit down and go over all the repicas I had so far in my Bowie project....He was in a wheel chair but a young lady was pushing him around to every table, and he was a great pleasure. It is really sad to me that his collection didnt go so the public could view such history :cry:
He will surely be missed.
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOWIE KNIFE?

Postby RLC-GTT on Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:24 am

Ha! And Jack looks like a slim-line, portable Bowie in that picture. :lol:
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOWIE KNIFE?

Postby K Hale on Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:58 am

Watch that knife, boy! The tip seems to actually be making an indentation in his shirt! :o
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOWIE KNIFE?

Postby Seguin on Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:02 am

He´s about to be getting a second belly button. :D
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOWIE KNIFE?

Postby cc nolen on Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:55 pm

Does anyone have a photo of the large clasp knife that Jim Bowie
was to have owned and is now in the collection of Phil Collins?
Also, if there is any information on the knife, that would be
appreciated as well :)

Below is a drawing by Gary Zaboly of Bowie using the large folder
and sitting with Jesse Robinson as he uses his large brass back
knife.

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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOWIE KNIFE?

Postby teresa1971 on Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:30 pm

It might be in Phil Collins upcoming book Alamo Beyond a Collector Journey.
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOWIE KNIFE?

Postby cc nolen on Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:37 pm

teresa1971 wrote:It might be in Phil Collins upcoming book Alamo Beyond a Collector Journey.


hanks Teresa....I was hoping someone would have some info and maybe a photo to share :D
I guess we'll wait on the book....is there a known time frame for the release?
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cc nolen wrote:
teresa1971 wrote:It might be in Phil Collins upcoming book Alamo Beyond a Collector Journey.


hanks Teresa....I was hoping someone would have some info and maybe a photo to share :D
I guess we'll wait on the book....is there a known time frame for the release?


According to Dr. Donald Frasier at State House Press the first week of March, 2012....
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOWIE KNIFE?

Postby cc nolen on Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:54 pm

Wow!....thanks for the info :D
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOWIE KNIFE?

Postby Fred on Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:52 pm

I'll bet it's going to be March 6! ;)
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOWIE KNIFE?

Postby cc nolen on Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:48 pm

Snap shot I took with a cell phone of the latest on my Bowie project.....took out the Iron Mistress. Been alot of
Bowie's that touched her, just not the real one :D .....added the Snowden and Seguin Knives.....lot of mystery
and myth but most are there and its fun to see them together....the real ones will never be.
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOWIE KNIFE?

Postby cc nolen on Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:55 pm

Just FYI....from top left moving down and to the right....The replicas are:
Caiaphas Ham, Jesse Clifft, Bart Moore, Berrara-Campbell, Juan Seguin, Noah Smithwick, Musso, Madam
Candelaria, Lovell Snowden, Bowie # 1, James Black, Hubers, Schively-Perkins, Searles-Fowler, Edwin
Forrest, and the Jesse Robinson. :D
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